Indoor dogs that visit get a treat of meatball wrapped around a healthy dose of ExLax hidden inside. Outdoor dogs get a visit from Animal Control. No one has to know what happened in either instance, so no neigbors get harmed in the process.
Neighbors dogs keep busting through fence
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I'm going to assume aesthetics and cost weigh into your deterrent. I'm also going to assume your fence has vertical boards with your typical 1.75" spacing - how else would the dog be able to chew and leverage without that gap. If the doggy crime is fixed to a narrow location then some of the more permanent suggestions here might suffice. If not, and you have a long run of fence, I would tack finish nails along the lower board edges leaving them partially exposed. If that's too arduous then a staple gun might be better.
Failing that claymores come to mind. I despise pit bulls.
Failing that claymores come to mind. I despise pit bulls.
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
Tell your neighbor you will put out a couple of bowls of antifreeze in the yard in 30 days..
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Not sure about the fence laws. I have heard that whoever has the panels facing their home is the owner of the fence, but it also seems fair to just split the ownership 50/50 if both parties are capable of doing so.
At least around here, my understanding is that a fence needs to be at least 6" in from the property line.
Not sure how long the OP has lived in their home, but I know when we were looking at fences, our mortgage documents told us all we needed regarding fences and driveway lines on our lot.
If I were OP, I'd do a little due diligence regarding whose fence it is, to be definite, and if it is not OP's, install another fence. If that fence is damaged, its definite encroachment and destruction of private property, which gets the legal documenting and wheels in motion. If the dog ever came over or attacked, then it is definitely a situation where reasonable precautions were taken to avoid an event.
Not sure about the fence laws. I have heard that whoever has the panels facing their home is the owner of the fence, but it also seems fair to just split the ownership 50/50 if both parties are capable of doing so.
At least around here, my understanding is that a fence needs to be at least 6" in from the property line.
Not sure how long the OP has lived in their home, but I know when we were looking at fences, our mortgage documents told us all we needed regarding fences and driveway lines on our lot.
If I were OP, I'd do a little due diligence regarding whose fence it is, to be definite, and if it is not OP's, install another fence. If that fence is damaged, its definite encroachment and destruction of private property, which gets the legal documenting and wheels in motion. If the dog ever came over or attacked, then it is definitely a situation where reasonable precautions were taken to avoid an event.
Document the condition of your fence, now. Then again after each damage.
Call Animal Control (or whatever it's called in your area) for each and every incident. Get a copy of each incident report.
Spray affected areas with OC Pepper spray, ideally when the dog is around, especially while damaging fence. Get the bear deterrent sprays, lots of capacity there. Dogs are 1000 times more sensitive than humans. It's a temporary solution, but over time may (or may not) condition the dog to the fence on your side.
Chicken wire, metal reinforcement. If they turn to digging instead, pour concrete, not a lot is needed to deter digging, an two or three inches deep along affected areas. Do not build a man-trap or dog-trap, even on your property it will lead you to big legal bills.
You're absolutely right about shooting, avoid if possible as people think of dogs as children, but if someone's life is on the line...
Consider this. Pit Bulls (most of them, anyway) have the self-preservation instinct bred out of them. So when they bite, they often stay clamped down even when injured. This was a necessary part of the sport they were bred for, bull-baiting (bringing down bulls). As such, once they clamp down on a human, they have to be shot off, cut off, or unconscious to be removed.
Be prepared.
Call Animal Control (or whatever it's called in your area) for each and every incident. Get a copy of each incident report.
Spray affected areas with OC Pepper spray, ideally when the dog is around, especially while damaging fence. Get the bear deterrent sprays, lots of capacity there. Dogs are 1000 times more sensitive than humans. It's a temporary solution, but over time may (or may not) condition the dog to the fence on your side.
Chicken wire, metal reinforcement. If they turn to digging instead, pour concrete, not a lot is needed to deter digging, an two or three inches deep along affected areas. Do not build a man-trap or dog-trap, even on your property it will lead you to big legal bills.
You're absolutely right about shooting, avoid if possible as people think of dogs as children, but if someone's life is on the line...
Consider this. Pit Bulls (most of them, anyway) have the self-preservation instinct bred out of them. So when they bite, they often stay clamped down even when injured. This was a necessary part of the sport they were bred for, bull-baiting (bringing down bulls). As such, once they clamp down on a human, they have to be shot off, cut off, or unconscious to be removed.
Be prepared.
Put an electric fence up in your garden. They'll soon learn.
Originally Posted By: beanoil
Indoor dogs that visit get a treat of meatball wrapped around a healthy dose of ExLax hidden inside. Outdoor dogs get a visit from Animal Control. No one has to know what happened in either instance, so no neigbors get harmed in the process.
That's it, punish the dog for the owner's stupidity...brilliant!
Indoor dogs that visit get a treat of meatball wrapped around a healthy dose of ExLax hidden inside. Outdoor dogs get a visit from Animal Control. No one has to know what happened in either instance, so no neigbors get harmed in the process.
That's it, punish the dog for the owner's stupidity...brilliant!
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That dog would come up missing pretty quickly. I have a small 22lb Schnauzer terrier and I wouldn't cope with a neighbor's pitbull in my backyard. I would trap it and lure it inside my vehicle, then drive-off to give it a new home in another location.... probably two counties away.
Sorry, broh. That's a [censored] situation to be in as you do have to live next to him. Document, photos, and video everything to protect yourself. Good luck
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
I like it too, and think there is a 100 per cent chance, animal control will be the ultimate solution. Injuring or killing the dog just for trespass is a poor solution with lots of negative consequences including possible legal trouble. I don't like pit bulls or the owners of them either. I don't think either can be trusted. That's why I don't think the friendly neighbor approach will work, but it's the right thing to try.
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
I like it too, and think there is a 100 per cent chance, animal control will be the ultimate solution. Injuring or killing the dog just for trespass is a poor solution with lots of negative consequences including possible legal trouble. I don't like pit bulls or the owners of them either. I don't think either can be trusted. That's why I don't think the friendly neighbor approach will work, but it's the right thing to try.
Originally Posted By: dlayman
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
I like it too, and think there is a 100 per cent chance, animal control will be the ultimate solution. Injuring or killing the dog just for trespass is a poor solution with lots of negative consequences including possible legal trouble. I don't like pit bulls or the owners of them either. I don't think either can be trusted. That's why I don't think the friendly neighbor approach will work, but it's the right thing to try.
It gives you the out if you have to call animal control, or worse. You can tell him, remember , i offered to help you fix the fence to keep them in and you declined. What do you expect me to do when pit bulls constantly get out on my side of the property?
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I would offer to bring some beer and help him reinforce his fence( he can buy materials). Perhaps offering to help will keep tensions low and maintain a good neighbor relationship. If he accepts then you can both discuss the best way to fix the fence so it will keep them in.
If he declines, then you just have to tell him that being a good neigbor is a 2 way street and if the dogs continue to get out, you will have not choice but to call animal control.
I completely agree with this!
I like it too, and think there is a 100 per cent chance, animal control will be the ultimate solution. Injuring or killing the dog just for trespass is a poor solution with lots of negative consequences including possible legal trouble. I don't like pit bulls or the owners of them either. I don't think either can be trusted. That's why I don't think the friendly neighbor approach will work, but it's the right thing to try.
It gives you the out if you have to call animal control, or worse. You can tell him, remember , i offered to help you fix the fence to keep them in and you declined. What do you expect me to do when pit bulls constantly get out on my side of the property?
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
Bottom line-there is no such thing as a pit bull you can trust. Chicken wire on the fence won't stop a pit bull, neither will a regular residential chain link fence. Quite frankly, the safety of my family comes first, and if a pit bull were to tear through a fence onto my property it wouldn't be around to do it a second time.
This. If you want a steel material that even a pit bull won't chew through, use the type of steel wire that is used to reinforce concrete. It comes in rolls and the open blocks are about 6 inches. Also it would be an excellent conductor for the electric fence concept. But then would the dogs be smart enough to dig under the steel fence?
Thanks for the laugh.
Bottom line-there is no such thing as a pit bull you can trust. Chicken wire on the fence won't stop a pit bull, neither will a regular residential chain link fence. Quite frankly, the safety of my family comes first, and if a pit bull were to tear through a fence onto my property it wouldn't be around to do it a second time.
This. If you want a steel material that even a pit bull won't chew through, use the type of steel wire that is used to reinforce concrete. It comes in rolls and the open blocks are about 6 inches. Also it would be an excellent conductor for the electric fence concept. But then would the dogs be smart enough to dig under the steel fence?
Thanks for the laugh.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: beanoil
Indoor dogs that visit get a treat of meatball wrapped around a healthy dose of ExLax hidden inside. Outdoor dogs get a visit from Animal Control. No one has to know what happened in either instance, so no neigbors get harmed in the process.
That's it, punish the dog for the owner's stupidity...brilliant!
^ this.
some solutions offered here are funny, as well as not very smart.
the op tried reason, by talking to him twice, and he stopped talking to the op.very childish response. ergo, you cannot reason with him.for that reason, you had better hope that nothing happens to the dog -- like he becomes ill, or gets hit by lightning -- because you will be blamed.
do the electrified chicken wire/some form of wire type of thing to deter the dog(s) from entering your property -- same idea used to contain cattle/horses. no one gets hurt, and no need to call police/animal control people.
that could escalate into a dangerous, and possibly fatal encounter, since you cannot reason with this guy. good luck.
(whatever happened to the guy that had a wacko neighbor that put fake monkeys in his tree ?)
Originally Posted By: beanoil
Indoor dogs that visit get a treat of meatball wrapped around a healthy dose of ExLax hidden inside. Outdoor dogs get a visit from Animal Control. No one has to know what happened in either instance, so no neigbors get harmed in the process.
That's it, punish the dog for the owner's stupidity...brilliant!
^ this.
some solutions offered here are funny, as well as not very smart.
the op tried reason, by talking to him twice, and he stopped talking to the op.very childish response. ergo, you cannot reason with him.for that reason, you had better hope that nothing happens to the dog -- like he becomes ill, or gets hit by lightning -- because you will be blamed.
do the electrified chicken wire/some form of wire type of thing to deter the dog(s) from entering your property -- same idea used to contain cattle/horses. no one gets hurt, and no need to call police/animal control people.
that could escalate into a dangerous, and possibly fatal encounter, since you cannot reason with this guy. good luck.
(whatever happened to the guy that had a wacko neighbor that put fake monkeys in his tree ?)
I hope you get this figured out. My advice is to document, document and document. Take notes, pictures and video if possible. Do not put up with that [censored]. The neighbours negligence should not cost you time, money or sleep.
Once you have a file put together and empirical evidence to present to either animal control or a lawyer then get it taken care of.
I feel bad that I don't feel bad but after this matter has continued and the neighbour has not made attempts to resolve it, the dog would be either trapped or killed. If you do not feel safe or are physically not safe in your own, fenced yard something is wrong and that has to be addressed.
Once you have a file put together and empirical evidence to present to either animal control or a lawyer then get it taken care of.
I feel bad that I don't feel bad but after this matter has continued and the neighbour has not made attempts to resolve it, the dog would be either trapped or killed. If you do not feel safe or are physically not safe in your own, fenced yard something is wrong and that has to be addressed.
There was a big story up in NH several years ago about an off duty cop shooting a dog that was unrestrained on a public hiking trail after he felt it was threatening his children. The dog was far enough away from its owners that they just heard the gunshot and had to run quite a ways to find their dead dog by the cop and his family.
I had a coworker who lived in that town and he was livid that the non-resident cop would come into his town and shoot the "harmless" pet of some residents (think he knew them). I had zero sympathy for people letting their dog of any kind run loose in a public area and making a dad feel his kids were threatened enough that he shot it. My coworker felt that the police in his town were just covering up for a fellow cop when they didn't file any charges, but it really seemed like common sense to me. You'd think that the cop had walked up to a great-grandmother in a wheelchair and shot her leashed, 3-legged Chihuahua service dog while it was taking a nap given the way that people were reacting.
Went hiking on that trail once and it was really nice, but it definitely felt like the middle of nowhere...I would be very uncomfortable encountering a large dog I didn't know that was out of sight of its owners in that place.
I had a coworker who lived in that town and he was livid that the non-resident cop would come into his town and shoot the "harmless" pet of some residents (think he knew them). I had zero sympathy for people letting their dog of any kind run loose in a public area and making a dad feel his kids were threatened enough that he shot it. My coworker felt that the police in his town were just covering up for a fellow cop when they didn't file any charges, but it really seemed like common sense to me. You'd think that the cop had walked up to a great-grandmother in a wheelchair and shot her leashed, 3-legged Chihuahua service dog while it was taking a nap given the way that people were reacting.
Went hiking on that trail once and it was really nice, but it definitely felt like the middle of nowhere...I would be very uncomfortable encountering a large dog I didn't know that was out of sight of its owners in that place.
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