need lug nuts for aftermarket wheels; 2025 Maverick

[4My25Maverick]

got a set of F1R wheels for my yet to be built '25 Ford maverick & need some help finding lug nuts to fit.

the company I bought the wheels from (they were shipped directly from the manufacturer) threw in a set of lug nuts, but the largest diameter of the seat is just over 23mm: the holes in the wheels are 21.75mm

ideally, what I'd like is a set of 24 (couple extra) closed end, short (1.7"), spline drive in black (obviously M14x1.5 threads) that are going to fit in the 21.75mm holes (if you have an opinion as to whether or not my preferred size is going to be too short, by all means, tell me what size you'd recommend & why)

 

[shortyb]

These seem to fit the bill of what you're looking for, but diameter may still be too big. Could contact the manufacturer and find out for certain though.
https://www.gorilla-auto.com/produc...lla_thread_pitch=20330&predominant_color=4352

Biggest issue will be getting a socket down in those lug holes. This is why I very much dislike "tuner" style wheels. Good luck

Edit: These are also 23mm in diameter.

 

[Kira]

Know anyone with a lathe?

 

[AZjeff]

Tell the wheel company the stupid lug nuts they sent don't fit the wheels and send something that does. No way I'd let a tire shop R&R your new wheels/tires.

 

[bdcardinal]

Tell the wheel company the stupid lug nuts they sent don't fit the wheels and send something that does. No way I'd let a tire shop R&R your new wheels/tires.

I always tell people that when they go down the rabbit hole of aftermarket wheels, make sure the lugnuts use the wrench that was supplied with the vehicle. Or if they are going to use those ghetto spline drive lugnuts, make sure to get a few extra sockets for when someone other than the owner of the vehicle has to deal with them.

 

[250SD_54V8]

Had a set of wheels many years ago on a Mazda Millenia with small lug nut holes like that and had to get inverted spline drive lug nuts to mount them. At that time I spent almost the price of the wheels for the stupid lug nuts. Also make sure the center of the wheel is the same size as the hub. If the wheel is bigger you will need to get wheel center spacers or they will never be truly centered on the hub and vibrate at higher speeds. Know this from my experience with aftermarket wheels.

 

[4My25Maverick]

Had a set of wheels many years ago on a Mazda Millenia with small lug nut holes like that and had to get inverted spline drive lug nuts to mount them. At that time I spent almost the price of the wheels for the stupid lug nuts. Also make sure the center of the wheel is the same size as the hub. If the wheel is bigger you will need to get wheel center spacers or they will never be truly centered on the hub and vibrate at higher speeds. Know this from my experience with aftermarket wheels.

yeah, finding that this lug nut issue is greater than I thought...but I'm pretty sure I've found a couple different options that I'm currently researching:
while the gorilla hex socket nuts *seem* liike they'll fit, I'm not so sure about there only being .25mm clearance; might not be enough; AND, the open-end design, at least to me, does nothing but allow dirt & crap to get to the studs thrrough the nuts, but I'll have to see once I get my single "test nut"
the sickspeed nuts are only 20mm wide, which gives about 1.75mm of clearance..whether or not that is enough remains to be seen BUT the combination of aluminum nuts on steel studs AND mixed reviews about the sickspeed brand, not sure I even want to get a "test nut" for these
similar to the gorilla, meaning the whole open ended design, but a smaller diameter (.75" or 19mm) would give better clearance, but again...open end https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YR616QS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SQ1ERR9VQ8AO&th=1
starting to gravitate towards the VMS racing tuner style lugs https://www.vmsracing.com/products/...s=13&_sid=551342db4&_ss=r&variant=37150823693
only 19mm
cap to close off the end
STEEL!

now, about the hub rings: fortunately, the dealer I bought the wheels from sent me a set of 63.4 to 70 hub rings, so I'm good there, but why?
am I old-school in thinking that the lug nuts should not only hold on hte wheel, but also keep the wheel centered on the hub? please edeucate me on why relying on the lug nuts is not as good as using a hub ring..this is truly one thing I've never understood

Jeff

 

[meep]

Gorilla and mcgard are the two lug nut brands I’d recommend. Both do splined nuts.

 

[VolkswagenFox21]

I’ve been using Mcgard spline lug nuts for years. Really like them, plus the seat spins so they don’t chew up the rim as much.

 

[userfriendly]

14mm x 1.5 is the correct thread, but the wheel nuts are the wrong design for those wheels.
Have a look at Ceco brand.

 

[B6_Dolphin]

Lug Nut Source:

https://www.thelugnutsource.com/collections/lug-nuts-1/lug-nuts_14-x-1-50