For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or full synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
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I think Mercon V was basically a friction modifier update of Mercon to work better with the torque convert lock up clutches Ford used beginning the the 90's.
The reason I asked the question was when I looked at the PDS for Havoline Mercon V the viscosity index is 191. (which alludes to the use of a lot of synthetic in the base stock)
When I looked at the PDS for Havoline Multi-Vehicle ATF the viscosity index is only 164.
Both are backwards compatible with the old Dexron/Mercon ATF.
So, answering my question, if your vehicle calls for the older DexronIII or Mercon ATF....IMO....it would be more beneficial to use the forward compatible Havoline Mercon V rather than the Havoline Multi-Vehicle ATF?
When I looked at the PDS for Havoline Multi-Vehicle ATF the viscosity index is only 164.
Both are backwards compatible with the old Dexron/Mercon ATF.
So, answering my question, if your vehicle calls for the older DexronIII or Mercon ATF....IMO....it would be more beneficial to use the forward compatible Havoline Mercon V rather than the Havoline Multi-Vehicle ATF?
Originally Posted By: mongo161
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or Full Synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
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This is a good question mongo.
My dd also is spec'd to run on Mercon V for the AT.
I usually enjoy the partial drain and fills via the fill tube, so a decent no-name fluid usually fits the bill. Mostly because of cost, but also because it's less messy and I still see nice gains from a few litres being swapped.
Recently I asked a rep at Canadian Tire online, what the difference b/t their Full Synthetic and the conventional ATF's that are both useable in Mercon V applications. Below is the link where they replied to my question
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-atf-mercon-v-946-ml-0281529p.html#.VX0LI2fn-po
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or Full Synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
TIA
This is a good question mongo.
My dd also is spec'd to run on Mercon V for the AT.
I usually enjoy the partial drain and fills via the fill tube, so a decent no-name fluid usually fits the bill. Mostly because of cost, but also because it's less messy and I still see nice gains from a few litres being swapped.
Recently I asked a rep at Canadian Tire online, what the difference b/t their Full Synthetic and the conventional ATF's that are both useable in Mercon V applications. Below is the link where they replied to my question
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-atf-mercon-v-946-ml-0281529p.html#.VX0LI2fn-po
Originally Posted By: mongo161
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or full synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
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SuperTech appears to be conventional oil based and is officially licensed.
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or full synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
TIA
SuperTech appears to be conventional oil based and is officially licensed.
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Originally Posted By: mongo161
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or full synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
TIA
Supertech appears to be conventional oil based and is officially licensed.
At one time, it was advertised as a synthetic blend, on the label. I don't know who supplies Walmart with their Mercon V at this time. Since we don't know the current supplier, we can't obtain a PDS on the fluid. Most of the Mercon V oils, do not label their ATF's as conventional, synthetic blend or full synthetic. That is why you need the PDS on the product, to try and determine/ascertain just what the fluids composition is for use.
There seems to be more money charged by selling "Multi-Vehicle" ATF than by selling Mercon V for the old Dex/Merc applications.
Originally Posted By: mongo161
For Mercon V, ATF to meet the standards for viscosity, does the ATF have to be a semi-synthetic or full synthetic? Or could the Mercon V classification be used for mineral oils?
TIA
Supertech appears to be conventional oil based and is officially licensed.
At one time, it was advertised as a synthetic blend, on the label. I don't know who supplies Walmart with their Mercon V at this time. Since we don't know the current supplier, we can't obtain a PDS on the fluid. Most of the Mercon V oils, do not label their ATF's as conventional, synthetic blend or full synthetic. That is why you need the PDS on the product, to try and determine/ascertain just what the fluids composition is for use.
There seems to be more money charged by selling "Multi-Vehicle" ATF than by selling Mercon V for the old Dex/Merc applications.
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