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Yea has to pass emissions. This cat is only 4 months old that's what I don't get the original was just rattling not throwing codes
 
Corollas have chains. There's a reason why people drive Civics and Corollas. Because there are no problems for 300k. Heard good things about the Ford Focus.
 
Here's what I'd do...go back to the same dealer, don't say a word, just say your bored and want something else. Do they have a website?
 
My 99SL2 just went over 200,000 recently. Original cat. Oil consumption 1 quart per 800 miles. It is what it is. Runs like a new car and is something I can work on for most things.

How much do you think you can get for your Saturn? If you are going to go that route I would do the research on your next vehicle before the purchase. If I get another used vehicle I am going to have it checked over by a mechanic. I have been burned so many times buying used cars that I smoke when I get close to a used car lot.

You may want to go over to Saturnfans if you have not done so already and see if they can help with your issue or to get another perspective. You may even find someone who would want your Saturn or you could get advice on selling it.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
A new motor is 2300 bucks I can't afford that and I don't think it's worth it I paid 2200 for the car
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If you can't afford $2300 than you should seriously get a bicycle. Or sell both cars, get one better econo car and call it a day.

Someone who cannot afford $2300 has no business owning two vehicles.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to be practical. If you can't raise $2300 in a reasonable amount of time than you need to get your world in order before thinking about multiple depreciating assets.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
A new motor is 2300 bucks I can't afford that and I don't think it's worth it I paid 2200 for the car
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If you can't afford $2300 than you should seriously get a bicycle. Or sell both cars, get one better econo car and call it a day.

Someone who cannot afford $2300 has no business owning two vehicles.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to be practical. If you can't raise $2300 in a reasonable amount of time than you need to get your world in order before thinking about multiple depreciating assets.


JHZR2 I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't have $2,300 just randomly kicking around. I can easily pay my bills every month on my income, but $2,300 would take quite some time to build up.
 
Sorry, this kind of thinking is why so many are in horrid financial conditions when working, let alone when unemployed.

$2300 is NOT a lot of money. Period. $2000 worth of car repairs is just about any major item. Wonder why people have massive credit card debt? Because they are out purchasing widgets, smart phones and cable tv plans, while NOT thinking about this kind of stuff coming along.

I'm not trying to be mean to the OP in any way, but frankly to not have $2300 accessible to your name is borderline irresponsible unless you're under 18yo.

What would the op do if he got into a car accident tomorrow and his car was totaled?

I have a hint, if you can't afford $2300, then you're not going to get very good financing, which means perpetual debt, which means worse problems.

IMO the OP needs to evaluate his whole financial situation. Perhaps check one of the Dave Ramsey books from the library.
 
You can buy a lot of oil and catalytic converters for $2,300.00. Luke at Saturnfans put over 600,000 miles on his 95 SL2 with the original block. Last I read he was getting around 500 miles per quart of oil and over 40 mpg of gas. He replaced his Cat yearly IIRC for California emissions. I financed my Saturn. Never again. If I do not have the cash to pay for a car, I will not buy one. I hope it works out for you.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Yea has to pass emissions. This cat is only 4 months old that's what I don't get the original was just rattling not throwing codes


I don't think the oil burning caused the cat to fail especially not that soon, or at least it would not with an OEM quality cat. If it was a cheap aftermarket, they can fail that soon on vehicles that don't even burn oil.

You need a higher quality cat, but OE would be cost prohibitive. Maybe an Eastern cat or a CARB approved one. That still costs money. And you'll still have the oil consumption issue. I would try the spark plug fouler trick again and make sure oil stays topped up.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
A new motor is 2300 bucks I can't afford that and I don't think it's worth it I paid 2200 for the car
smirk.gif



If you can't afford $2300 than you should seriously get a bicycle. Or sell both cars, get one better econo car and call it a day.

Someone who cannot afford $2300 has no business owning two vehicles.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to be practical. If you can't raise $2300 in a reasonable amount of time than you need to get your world in order before thinking about multiple depreciating assets.


JHZR2 I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't have $2,300 just randomly kicking around. I can easily pay my bills every month on my income, but $2,300 would take quite some time to build up.


And all of those bills (a new car payment, credit card payments, etc) are precisely the reason why you can't come up with just $2,300. You'll never build any real wealth with your debt method, and real stand up adults don't rely on mommy and daddy to help pay their bills.

chevyboy, it's time to get rid of all the junkers, and as JHZR2 recommends, save up and get a single, reliable vehicle. All you are doing is relieving someone else of their headache vehicles.

It's getting close to spring-as soon as the weather breaks buy a bicycle for your transportation needs, get rid of your clunkers, get a summer job within biking distance of home, and spend the summer saving for a decent vehicle.

And whatever you do, don't be stupid and go into debt for a car. Being tethered to car payments is one of the dumbest things you can do.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
A new motor is 2300 bucks I can't afford that and I don't think it's worth it I paid 2200 for the car
smirk.gif



If you can't afford $2300 than you should seriously get a bicycle. Or sell both cars, get one better econo car and call it a day.

Someone who cannot afford $2300 has no business owning two vehicles.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to be practical. If you can't raise $2300 in a reasonable amount of time than you need to get your world in order before thinking about multiple depreciating assets.


This is pretty sound advice. Cars have a lot of associated costs beyond the purchase price. If the money from the sale of the Saturn is all you can spend on another car, you are bound to end up with another money pit that needs constant repairs. Expecting to get a better car for the same amount of money isn't a very realistic expectation.

If you can get by with one vehicle, you need to go that route, at least for the time being. In the end, the money in the bank will be worth it. Pouring money into a car that is near the end of its usable life isn't worth it for a little added convenience.
 
$2300 seems like a lot to pay for what he really needs: a rebuild on a 4 cylinder motor.

Unless I'm missing something the actual parts shouldn't cost a lot, even if it required valves, pistons, rings, bearings, etc.

I'm interested in just where the oil goes if it doesn't show any smoke? Are you sure it won't pass emmisions? I'd find out.

If he can get to a quart every thousand miles...

Cheers!
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
A new motor is 2300 bucks I can't afford that and I don't think it's worth it I paid 2200 for the car
smirk.gif



If you can't afford $2300 than you should seriously get a bicycle. Or sell both cars, get one better econo car and call it a day.

Someone who cannot afford $2300 has no business owning two vehicles.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to be practical. If you can't raise $2300 in a reasonable amount of time than you need to get your world in order before thinking about multiple depreciating assets.


JHZR2 I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't have $2,300 just randomly kicking around. I can easily pay my bills every month on my income, but $2,300 would take quite some time to build up.


And all of those bills (a new car payment, credit card payments, etc) are precisely the reason why you can't come up with just $2,300. You'll never build any real wealth with your debt method, and real stand up adults don't rely on mommy and daddy to help pay their bills.

chevyboy, it's time to get rid of all the junkers, and as JHZR2 recommends, save up and get a single, reliable vehicle. All you are doing is relieving someone else of their headache vehicles.

It's getting close to spring-as soon as the weather breaks buy a bicycle for your transportation needs, get rid of your clunkers, get a summer job within biking distance of home, and spend the summer saving for a decent vehicle.

And whatever you do, don't be stupid and go into debt for a car. Being tethered to car payments is one of the dumbest things you can do.


While you may be right, there is also a lot wrong with your post.
"Dind a summer job within biking distance...."
Yes because it's SO EASY to find a job these days. It took me THREE MONTHS to get a job working cashier at a retail location. And it's still 15 miles away. You make it sound like finding a job that close is easy. Well, it is NOT. Biking 30 miles, every day, is just not a feasible commute technique. Using myself as an example. Assuming I never spent any money on bills, or anything at all, biking to work, it would still take me about a year and a half to be able to purchase a car outright, in cash. For most people, that method is just not feasible.


$2,300 IS a lot of money for someone who barely makes $15,000 annually. And I am extremely offended by your "relying on mommy and daddy" comment, because my parents have not payed one cent of any of my bills, even when I was unemployed for 3 months, yet I still managed to pay all of my bills on time.

Right now, I can comfortably pay my bills, with a bit of spending money left over. I don't plan to work retail forever, at least not in my curren position. I always have the option to try to stay with the company and advance. Or, as I currently plan, enlist in the Air Force, or Navy. Get decent paycheck, get training that i can use to find a better job one I get out.

When my cavalier died, what did you think I should have done? At the time, I commuted 80 miles a day. You can't bike that. A car was required. At the time, my mom bought the car in her name, and I made every single payment on it. Then, when my parents decided this past June they wanted new cars, we traded the focus in (and didn't lose a penny on it, by the way), and I got the cruze, which is in my name, so me paying ofr it actually builds credit.
 
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Jhzr2: let me give you a realistic run down. I'm 20 years old have a 2yr old son and a fiance. I am starting school in August and working my fiance will be working only though she may do a couple classes. I have two vehicles so we can both do what we need to do. I also bought the truck to scrap with it and make money. I do not have 2300 laying around and it would take awhile to come up with that kind of money. But I am debt free and everything we need to do gets done. I am poor now because of my situation but after I get out of school that will change. We don't barrow money we don't mooch of the government or anyone else. So all in all we aren't doing to bad. Also I paid 2200 for the car why in the [censored] would I put 2300 into it? I'd rering it before that. But let me tell you something I live in America and I have every right to own 2 cars and have all the reasons to. not that I need a reason. I really think if you think people can just pull 2300 out of there dresser drawer your sadly mistaken and a little confused. If you can that's great your doing good. Maybe because of hard work and a little luck. Some of us didn't have luck. We made a dumb decision while in high school and because of that our parents kicked us out and she was pregnant. We are making it in the world and I'm proud of that. But I really don't think the majority of people have 2300 laying around.
 
Thank you Nick. You make sense!! I appreciate that these days. Sorry guys I gotta be at work at 5 I better get on my bike so I can make it on time. Jeeez that's just wonderful logic. LOL you do what you have to do but that is definitely not a decent long term option.
 
Pop I don't want you to think that I think that being in debt is good, because it most assuredly is not, but unless you have a great job and are already pretty well established, living completely debt-free forever is pretty difficult. One of my credit cards I pay only %3 interest on, so I'm not worried about making slightly more than the minimum payment on it, the other one is completely interest free as long as it's payed off within 5 years (both $500 credit limit) so I'm not worried. If I was paying 20% interest or higher, then yes, I would devote more of my paycheck to it, and no, I don't use them anymore ,and also yes, they are pretty close to payed off.
 
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OK also where would my son safely fit on this bicycle?and who even mentioned mommy and daddy? You guys are blindly assuming and you know what they say about assuming it makes an [censored] out of you and me. [censored]-u-me. Seriously does anyone have any realistic advice. I don't need to be told how to live and I don't need to hear the mommy daddy credit card [censored] as NONE of it applies.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Jhzr2: let me give you a realistic run down. I'm 20 years old have a 2yr old son and a fiance. I am starting school in August and working my fiance will be working only though she may do a couple classes. I have two vehicles so we can both do what we need to do. I also bought the truck to scrap with it and make money. I do not have 2300 laying around and it would take awhile to come up with that kind of money. But I am debt free and everything we need to do gets done. I am poor now because of my situation but after I get out of school that will change. We don't barrow money we don't mooch of the government or anyone else. So all in all we aren't doing to bad. Also I paid 2200 for the car why in the [censored] would I put 2300 into it? I'd rering it before that. But let me tell you something I live in America and I have every right to own 2 cars and have all the reasons to. not that I need a reason. I really think if you think people can just pull 2300 out of there dresser drawer your sadly mistaken and a little confused. If you can that's great your doing good. Maybe because of hard work and a little luck. Some of us didn't have luck. We made a dumb decision while in high school and because of that our parents kicked us out and she was pregnant. We are making it in the world and I'm proud of that. But I really don't think the majority of people have 2300 laying around.



Your doing fine. I think the poster had a similar upbringing to mine and luckily had parents pay for their engineering college and no hiccups between.

Makes a huge difference in the world to start out debt free and at the top.

You did not. I wish you the best of luck with everything.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
OK also where would my son safely fit on this bicycle?and who even mentioned mommy and daddy? You guys are blindly assuming and you know what they say about assuming it makes an [censored] out of you and me. [censored]-u-me. Seriously does anyone have any realistic advice. I don't need to be told how to live and I don't need to hear the mommy daddy credit card [censored] as NONE of it applies.


While Pop Rivet's bicycle only advice might be extreme, I think there are some valid points you should consider before taking on the risk of another used vehicle.

Owning a vehicle is a privilege. If it was a right, everyone would have a car and that's not the case. A lot of people do have to rely on a bike or public transit. In Missouri, I can see a car being a necessity, but if money is tight putting money into multiple vehicles can put you in a much tighter bind than you need to be in. If it is possible at all for you and your fiance to share the truck and both use it for commuting, the cost savings could be huge. Yes, it will be inconvenient to juggle work schedules and school with one vehicle, but the convenience of two reliable vehicles is a luxury. Frankly, it sounds like a luxury that will be difficult to maintain.

The Saturn and the potential replacements in your price range are at a high risk of needing repairs. What will you do if a transmission goes out? You will be stuck with a vehicle that isn't worth much more than scrap value, and the money you already put into it will be gone. You will be back to square one, looking at either an expensive repair, or another high risk vehicle at the end of its life. If you can save that money, and deal with the inconvenience of one vehicle, eventually you can save up enough to get a vehicle that is much more likely to provide years of reliable service without major repairs.

You asked for advice and you got it. It may not be exactly what you want to hear, but it is a valid consideration with your financial situation. A second vehicle probably would be a great thing to have, but you really need to consider if it is worth the expense and risk. If it comes down to a second car or being able to comfortably cover your other expenses, you probably need to put the second car on hold. Counting on a 15 year old car to be reliable and not a money pit is a big risk.

It sounds like the Saturn isn't quite dead yet, so see if you can get it to pass another inspection without putting a lot more money into it, and get what use you can out of it. I wouldn't sink a lot of money into it, and I would definitely avoid buying a replacement unless it is an absolute necessity you can't live without.
 
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