Mind expanding a bit on this one?
Name a car you will never buy again.
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2003 Ford Taurus
BrendanC
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id take that GMT800 tahoe over and new blue oval. they circle the issue on the front for you.
thats a big 10-4 there. When I was lemon lawing the PowerBoost I repeatedly said in my affidavit/messages to Ford Motor Company "how can a wasted, 20 year old, 300k GM truck prove to be more reliable than a new Ford?" It didn't accomplish much but made me feel good to say.
BrendanC
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the CEO’s power boost is at the dealer right now and out of warranty. told him to trade it at a GM dealership for a Denali ultimate. i would only take a ford if it was between a hemi and a coyote.
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Ford. They have been going downhill since 2005/6.
To date my ordered bu me 21 F450 received July 8 2021 has had
*Low rear axle gear oil. Only two qts came out when I got it home. Holds just under 4qts.
*Missing passanger side seat track bolt
*3 of the 4 doors misaligned from factory
* Tcase drained a qt. It holds two.
* something like 7 recalls/tsbs.
* Chrome pealed on rear bumper.
* Tailgate cables unequal lengths
* Sand and a hair UNDER the clear coat.
* Blown shocks at 900 miles.
* Missing fender push tabs fender flare was flopping. 4 trips to 3 dealers to buy them
* Missing brake bleeder caps
* Loose rear sway bar
* ACC that was irratic and dangerous. Found plastic on the camera plug on bumper.
*Oil rise on stick over time.
* Corosion all over the truck even the day I picked it up.
I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff.
I have fixed all of it myself except the paint.
To date my ordered bu me 21 F450 received July 8 2021 has had
*Low rear axle gear oil. Only two qts came out when I got it home. Holds just under 4qts.
*Missing passanger side seat track bolt
*3 of the 4 doors misaligned from factory
* Tcase drained a qt. It holds two.
* something like 7 recalls/tsbs.
* Chrome pealed on rear bumper.
* Tailgate cables unequal lengths
* Sand and a hair UNDER the clear coat.
* Blown shocks at 900 miles.
* Missing fender push tabs fender flare was flopping. 4 trips to 3 dealers to buy them
* Missing brake bleeder caps
* Loose rear sway bar
* ACC that was irratic and dangerous. Found plastic on the camera plug on bumper.
*Oil rise on stick over time.
* Corosion all over the truck even the day I picked it up.
I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff.
I have fixed all of it myself except the paint.
To the best of my knowledge, the Ford 10 speed was properly updated mid 2021, for the 2022 model year. The issue is well known now. Unless already accomplished, an aftermarket replacement 10R-80 trans cost should be factored in to the purchase price of any 2021 or earlier used 10sp Ford.
Sad that it has to be this way, but early adopters often pay a reliability price.
For sure Subaru.
GM.........but maybe a truck
VW
But I am not hard and fast really on anything but Subaru.
GM.........but maybe a truck
VW
But I am not hard and fast really on anything but Subaru.
They generally have faulty rings pre-2012 and the GDI versions don't hold up given Hyundai's maintenance regimen.
The last one I bought, I replaced the engine for $3500 plus labor. That $3500 engine was the only one I could find that had decent miles and a decent price. The others were all over $5000 on car-part.
I made money on the unit, and the prices for those engines have come down a bit. But it was an enormous pain from beginning to end. i'm never buying another one.
I swore off Chrysler products after my '89 Dakota and '95 Intrepid both went through transmissions faster than they wore out tires...
VW- our New Beetle was an electrical nightmare. It was fun to drive but I hated all the little things that it needed. Plus the interior turned to snot.
I’m driving my last Chrysler product. A Honda or Toyota minivan will replace it. Electronics are its issue and the interior in my 250k+ mile Camry looks nicer than the vans.
I’m also not happy with Ford and the new F150’s. I’ve not touched GM ever, as others in my family have had nothing but problems, including a blown engine in an Equinox.
I still love Jeeps and tolerate what I don’t tolerate above with them, oddly enough.
I’m driving my last Chrysler product. A Honda or Toyota minivan will replace it. Electronics are its issue and the interior in my 250k+ mile Camry looks nicer than the vans.
I’m also not happy with Ford and the new F150’s. I’ve not touched GM ever, as others in my family have had nothing but problems, including a blown engine in an Equinox.
I still love Jeeps and tolerate what I don’t tolerate above with them, oddly enough.
That is correct (Supposedly updated August 2021). But it cost me dearly to get rid of my F150-and the ten speed brings bad memories. I would still not want one. It's like having a bad meal at a restaurant-and not wanting to try the place again.
sorry @AutoMechanic , I do love power, but it isn't everything. The fact that my VW leaned in the wrong direction WHILE STATIONARY during a turn...just doesn't sit well with me. I live for the corner, and the steering on a bug is literally deadly. I would take that engine in a 0.5 ton car with stellar handling any day of the week...oh wait, is that a go-kart ;-)
I see. Must've been the 5.0L?
My sister has been pretty lucky with the 2009 Genesis 4.6L, but it is port fuel injection, not GDI. I think that alone is heavily responsible for the good service life over the years. She still loves it and refuses to let it go yet. It's on a diet of MOBIL1 0W-40, so the oil consumption is staying at around 1qt per 5000 miles over the last few years and 35k miles. Total mileage on it is over 125k, goal is at least 200k. Should be achievable, as I've seen dozens of these early 4.6L Tau with 250k+ miles. Can't say the same about the 5.0L though, see lots of those for sale with low miles and low asking price...
The last couple GM vehicles got me turned off of anything GM. For sure, a 2010 Traverse and a 2013 Equinox 2.4 are "never again" vehicles. So many problems on each of those that curiously come up quite often when you search for the problem du jour. The Equinox was horrible when there's a TSB for the air injection system clogging up and setting check engine lights, but GM's stance is "Yes, we know it clogs up, you just have to take the catalytic converter and exhaust manifold off and clean the soot out, there's no permanent fix. Oh, but don't worry, you'll probably be needing a new exhaust manifold by that time anyway, because we know they crack.". Jury's still out on the Ram since it's my first Ram, but (knock on wood), no problems in 42,000 miles.
I agree. Had a Subaru once....never again. Money pit piece of garbage.
For me the MT was taking a poo at 20K and just everything on the car was cheap, thin, rattling
Was a 2014 WRX Hatch. I only bought a bit of a whim, cash, because very last year of the iconic hatchback. The car was good to me, great on ice and snow. It was my commuter car for nearly 5 years and trade gave me almost what I paid new for it. A few sound deadening and suspension mods. But the old 5 speed MT was not a good one. Changing the MT fluid every 4-5K helped, and yes I tried all the things. 3rd went out first, the 2nd starting doing the same.
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It was many years ago and the car was a late 80's Subaru XT. The air suspension 4x4 system went out on it from water intrusion (drove the car across a mountain pass in the snow one time). Cost me $800 to fix it. The other annoying thing was the horrible noise and rattling engine. No matter what oil I put it that thing is sounded like a bucket of bolts. Had various electrical issues as well. Underpowered. Was so happy to get rid of it.