My Valvoline Restore & Protect Order has Arrived, can I change Filter Only? And more.

[Satin]

Valvoline Restore & Protect is very expensive where I live, it has to be imported and costs about $60 for a 5-quart jug.


Q1: My car has 93,000 miles so I am expecting medium deposit level. Can I replace the oil filter only without draining the valvoline r &p in the sump? Will I just lose the oil contained in the old filter and be able to top off that amount afterward?


My car requires 4.25 quarts, so after the change, I’ll still have 0.75 quart left in the jug.



Q2: What’s the best oil change interval in valvoline r&p treatement to avoid clogging the filter?

I have always changed oil every 5,000 miles using full synthetic for the entire 93k mileage of my car

My plan with Restore & Protect is to perform three oil changes to achieve full cleaning:

1st change: after 3,000 miles
2nd change: after 5,000 miles
3rd change: after 6,000 miles

This schedule accounts for faster deposit buildup during the initial cleaning phase.

 

[JohnnyG]

Are you having excess oil consumption issues?

 

[Satin]

Are you having excess oil consumption issues?

Very minor.. about 0.25 quart for every 5000 miles.

My car is turbocharged GDI and I am using this product as a preventative measure.

 

[JohnnyG]

Then just keep to your same routine, 5 / 6000 mile changes. VR&P won't clog your filter.

 

[Satin]

Then just keep to your same routine, 5 / 6000 mile changes. VR&P won't clog your filter.

There have been a few youtube videos where it did clog the filter, common to most of them is they have tremendously high mileage and poor maintenance history, but since I can’t guarantee it won’t clog the filter, i am thinking pf changing the oil filter only midway the first oil change of 3000 miles.

 

[JohnnyG]

There have been a few youtube videos where it did clog the filter, common to most of them is they have tremendously high mileage and poor maintenance history, but since I can’t guarantee it won’t clog the filter, i am thinking pf changing the oil filter only midway the first oil change of 3000 miles.

It's worth a shot, you shouldn't lose too much oil.
I'd like to see a link to those YouTube vids if you can get them.

 

[Bottom_Feeder]

93k miles isn't 'high miles' anymore and you said it's lived on a diet of nothing but synthetic. The insides are probably spotless. You're worrying about nothing.

 

[JavierH19]

Yes you can change the filter and leave the oil in there for a bit longer.

 

[Satin]

It's worth a shot, you shouldn't lose too much oil.
I'd like to see a link to those YouTube vids if you can get them.

 

[fantastic]

Valvoline Restore & Protect is very expensive where I live, it has to be imported and costs about $60 for a 5-quart jug.


Q1: My car has 93,000 miles so I am expecting medium deposit level. Can I replace the oil filter only without draining the valvoline r &p in the sump? Will I just lose the oil contained in the old filter and be able to top off that amount afterward?


My car requires 4.25 quarts, so after the change, I’ll still have 0.75 quart left in the jug.



Q2: What’s the best oil change interval in valvoline r&p treatement to avoid clogging the filter?

I have always changed oil every 5,000 miles using full synthetic for the entire 93k mileage of my car

My plan with Restore & Protect is to perform three oil changes to achieve full cleaning:

1st change: after 3,000 miles
2nd change: after 5,000 miles
3rd change: after 6,000 miles

This schedule accounts for faster deposit buildup during the initial cleaning phase.

I'd say you could just change out the oil filter at 2,500 miles & then run the oil out to 6,000 miles. Then have a 2nd oil change.

 

[JohnnyG]

Thanks for the videos. I'd agree, VR&P is working for him exactly as advertised. I'd also say that it didn't harm his engine in any way, since all that crud buildup prior probably did.
But ultimately, that's why oil filters are designed with an internal bypass, so that they can continue to pass oil when plugged, and keep the engine happy.
I also don't really see too much abrasive stuff in the crud that's been removed, but it is pretty hard to tell without actually being there.

 

[Kira]

Why would you expect any deposits at all?

Remove the canister (or element) after 3,000 miles. Open it (or just look at the element).
When you find nothing there, as I did with my well maintained engine, you can go about your life with all this off your mind.
Let the VRP do its thing in your GDI/turbo.

Are you the first owner of the vehicle?
What vehicle?

 

[mojoe]

Valvoline says on their website that Restore and Protect does NOT clog filters. I emailed them today, attached the video above, and asked how they explain that. I got what I'm sure was pretty much a canned response, insisting again that the cleaning properties do not clog filters.

 

[53Cavalier]

There have been a few youtube videos where it did clog the filter, common to most of them is they have tremendously high mileage and poor maintenance history, but since I can’t guarantee it won’t clog the filter, i am thinking pf changing the oil filter only midway the first oil change of 3000 miles.

If you're concerned, an oil filter is cheap peace of mind. Change it half way through, top up your oil, and then continue on with your regular oil changes. Cut the first filter open and have a look!

I just started running R&P in our Escape and Transit connect.

 

[JohnnyG]

Valvoline says on their website that Restore and Protect does NOT clog filters. I emailed them today, attached the video above, and asked how they explain that. I got what I'm sure was pretty much a canned response, insisting again that the cleaning properties do not clog filters.

Well, in the video, the mechanic says right out that this truck was abused. Judging from the amount of sludge, I'd say very long or neglected oil changes were a big factor.
With the fixes that the guy performed, and the continued future use of VR&P, I'd say this engine got a new lease on life!

 

[mojoe]

Well, in the video, the mechanic says right out that this truck was abused. Judging from the amount of sludge, I'd say very long or neglected oil changes were a big factor.
With the fixes that the guy performed, and the continued future use of VR&P, I'd say this engine got a new lease on life!

From Valvoline webste:
Valvoline’s Active Clean technology chemically dissolves deposits into microscopic pieces, which are then suspended in the motor oil, eventually leaving the engine during the next oil change. There is no impact to the performance or longevity of the oil filter.

 

[Carlostrece]

Valvoline Restore & Protect is very expensive where I live, it has to be imported and costs about $60 for a 5-quart jug.

Q1: My car has 93,000 miles so I am expecting medium deposit level. Can I replace the oil filter only without draining the valvoline r &p in the sump?

Yes. That's what I'd do if I had your car.

My car requires 4.25 quarts, so after the change, I’ll still have 0.75 quart left in the jug.

Q2: What’s the best oil change interval in valvoline r&p treatement to avoid clogging the filter?

The answer is subject to opinions and circumstances which vary per car. My opinion is...

It depends on how dirty your engine is and how big your oil filter is. With a typical engine, or an engine where you don't know how dirty, and using an oil filter that's standard size for your car... During first use of VRP I'd change filter at anywhere from 1000 or 2500 miles, then change oil and filter at 5000 miles. For each sunsequent use of VRP, I'd just change oil and filter at 5000 miles. I suggest using a filter that is rated for 25 microns @ 99% or better.

Some car engines, such as Jeep 4L and Buick 3800 have optional, fully compatible extra length oil filters available which are approx 40% longer than stock filter. I use such a filter on my Buick 3800. So if I were to use VRP, I'd leave the filter on for 5000 miles (even during 1st use of VRP) without concerns of a clogged filter.

For most car engines, only standard length filters are available. So then just change the filter early during first use of VRP.

I have always changed oil every 5,000 miles using full synthetic for the entire 93k mileage of my car.

My plan with Restore & Protect is to perform three oil changes to achieve full cleaning:
1st change: after 3,000 miles.
2nd change: after 5,000 miles

3rd change: after 6,000 miles

I suggest:
1) Change filter at 1000 or 2500 miles. Leave VRP in engine.
2) Change VRP oil and filter at 5000 miles.
3) Change VRP oil and filter at 10,000 miles.
4) Change VRP oil and filter at 15,000 miles.
Change VRP oil and filter at 20,000 miles.

Then use any affordable good synthetic oil after that. Continue changing oil and filter at 5000 miles.

P.S. - If you're not burning oil then you don't need VRP. If you're burning oil, you might need VRP. There are many possible causes of oil consumption. VRP only helps with one possible cause that I know of. Given that it's expensive for you, I suggest not using it unless your engine really needs it.

 

[Japanese]

Q1: My car has 93,000 miles so I am expecting medium deposit level. Can I replace the oil filter only without draining the valvoline r &p in the sump? Will I just lose the oil contained in the old filter and be able to top off that amount afterward?

What car do you have and what country do you live in?

You can replace just the filter and add the same amount of oil (usually about 300 ml) and you would be fine. However, considering your car is below 100K miles your engine doesn't burn oil - the engine would not be that dirty and you don't need to change the filter before the oil. Valvoline R&P is designed to clean slowly the engine, so it won't clog your filter.
If your car has a oil filter cartridge, you can inspect the filter and decide does it need to be changed or not. Most likely won't need to be changed.

The guy on the video didn't clog his filter, just got some sludge on one end of the filter. If he completely clogged his filter, his oil pressure lamp would come off and he will trash his engine. Which didn't happen.

Q2: What’s the best oil change interval in valvoline r&p treatement to avoid clogging the filter?

You can run the oil for 5K with no worries.