My Suv had a heart attack, too much Bacon? Help!

[bbhero]

Not in contact with Mobil by now????

Yeah there's a novel concept. .

This is all a bunch of horse #2.


Step 1. Empty out good Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil.

Step 2. Pour in X-Press oil 5/30... Garbage oil made in Chicago...

Step 3. Run that garbage in vehicle of choice.

Step 4. Resulting carnage ensues.

Step 5. Start posting videos and commentary online.. All the while not contacting Mobil...

And there could be more beyond these steps as well.

If the individual who started this thread as not contacted the producer of the exceptionally faulty product by now... Something just is not right here.

 

[demarpaint]

Again I find it odd that there is only one person complaining about said product on this board, or anywhere else on the www. for that matter. I am not accusing the OP of wrong doing. I still think he bought oil that was returned and the contents replaced with something else. What else? I have no idea. I will go back to what I said earlier: Pay attention to the oil you pour out of jugs, it might not be what you think it is.

If it turns out the product did in fact come from XOM then I was wrong, and I apologize in advance for having my doubts.

 

[bbhero]

^^^^^^^^

Yeah that's a possibility here..

Though something tells me that it is a low percentage chance.


And if by chance I am proven incorrect. Then I will gladly say I'm sorry.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

I made a reply somewhere on this website about a problem my dad encountered once.
He bought a '72 Gran Torino Sport 429, auto, from my uncle. He went to drain the oil and it looked exactly like that goop in the pan. The valve train was so gunked up he had to physically remove all of the sludge. My uncle told my dad that he had not changed the oil in over 10-15K miles. Now, you have to remember, this was in 1976. Quaker State and Pennzoil were wax oils and my uncle used QS in in the engine.

 

[RamFan]

Originally Posted By: Jooksing


TY. Initially I had the fear that it was my engine leaking the coolant into the oil causing this. After the UOA I am now relieve that it was not my engine that caused this. (Also super relieve that they did not detect high metal content).


Wait, so did you get your sample results from Blackstone?

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: Jooksing


TY. Initially I had the fear that it was my engine leaking the coolant into the oil causing this. After the UOA I am now relieve that it was not my engine that caused this. (Also super relieve that they did not detect high metal content).


Wait, so did you get your sample results from Blackstone?


Yes he did.

Originally Posted By: Jooksing
UOA is in... I called and ask them to run the TBN..Monday for that.


Of course they asked If I put Lucas in.

I am surprised that there is no metals wear detected. Since I filled the sample from the oil catcher cold I wonder if the metals has gone to the bottom. They sait was so thick that the Vis number could not be obtained.

 

[das_peikko]

The seal on the bottle will tell the whole story as to whether or not the oil bottle was a Walmart return. We still don't know what kind of seal was on the bottle or whether or not it was broken and then re-glued before being returned. Some oil bottles don't even have a seal; just a plastic lock on the cap. The only way Mobil is to blame is if in fact the seal was never broken before the OP bought the oil. My gut feeling along with some common sense tells me the oil bottle was a Walmart return. Notice how I said oil bottle and not oil? That's because the original contents of the bottle are long gone and probably in somebody else's engine.

 

[DuckRyder]

I simply don’t believe that came out of a sealed M1 bottle. M1 bottles are sealed with a security cap and a foil seal.

I also don’t understand how it poured into the engine without notice, I suppose its possible that whatever it is was activated by heat, but what would fit that description that would still look and smell like oil before heating? Perhaps what dissolves it is a clue to what it is?

Any chance for someone to tamper with the vehicle? You got anyone mad at you?

 

[njohnson]

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
The seal on the bottle will tell the whole story as to whether or not the oil bottle was a Walmart return. We still don't know what kind of seal was on the bottle or whether or not it was broken and then re-glued before being returned. Some oil bottles don't even have a seal; just a plastic lock on the cap. The only way Mobil is to blame is if in fact the seal was never broken before the OP bought the oil. My gut feeling along with some common sense tells me the oil bottle was a Walmart return. Notice how I said oil bottle and not oil? That's because the original contents of the bottle are long gone and probably in somebody else's engine.


I bought a bottle of oil from Walmart years ago that looked like it was tampered with. This was before I learned to be careful and really check it over. It was a 5 quart bottle of QuakerState, these were the clear bottles that QuakerState used for a time. That is how long ago it was. The Walmart I bought them from had the bottles on a clearance shelf. I grabbed two of them. I thought I had gotten a good deal. I had them sitting on the desk at home, side by side. Noticed the level on one of the bottles was lower than the other. At first, thought it was filled wrong from the factory. Looking at the foil seal, I realized there was a puncture hole in the foil seal, about the size of a needle. I think someone used a syringe and needle to syphon some of the oil out. So, the foil seal was still there, but, there was a tiny hole in it.

I started checking the oil bottles closely after that when I go to buy oil. Lesson learned.

 

[littleant]

I don't know how oil is bottled but is it possible that if large vats are used that certain parts of the oil settled to the bottom and this was the unlucky jug???. I purchase my oil at Walmart Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w30. The first thing I do is shake it. The second thing I do is pay for it. The third thing I do is open it BEFORE I leave the store at customer service including filters. Do you think purchasing at a parts store like O'Reillys is safer?? All this because of a few dirt ba++

 

[bullwinkle]

I've pretty much stopped buying oil & filters at Walmart because of things like this, except for the occasional thing that gets shipped in site-to-store. Too many shelf items getting messed with!

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
I've pretty much stopped buying oil & filters at Walmart because of things like this, except for the occasional thing that gets shipped in site-to-store. Too many shelf items getting messed with!

You guys must live in some pretty bad neighborhoods. I buy all my oil at Walmart for my four cars and multiple OPE, and I've done it for over 30 years. I've never seen a tampered container or anything.

 

[JAG]

Before I learned my lesson, I bought a jug of Mobil 1 from Walmart that had no seal and was filled with used oil. I noticed before pouring it. Walmart refunded me when I returned it.

 

[Jooksing]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Jooksing
Do I blame them now.. well now I do.
I think I got a defective product from them however unlikely it is.


How come you're not in direct contact with Mobil by now?

As I said before, I did call them. They wanted me to have a license mechanic report on it. The mechanic want to see the UOA before he did anything cause he is flabbergasted himself.
I expect M1 will call me once I send them the report and pictures of this.
Originally Posted By: wemay


100%
Get all your facts in line before assigning blame. Be it direct or insinuated. Not meant as criticism, just a warning since social media is taken seriously by these companies (as stated before).

Ty. I do realize the risk of posting and threading carefully that I only post fasts of what happened such as if the foil was there or not.


Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Again I find it odd that there is only one person complaining about said product on this board, or anywhere else on the www. for that matter. I am not accusing the OP of wrong doing. I still think he bought oil that was returned and the contents replaced with something else. What else? I have no idea. I will go back to what I said earlier: Pay attention to the oil you pour out of jugs, it might not be what you think it is.

If it turns out the product did in fact come from XOM then I was wrong, and I apologize in advance for having my doubts.

I am pretty OCD at times and if there was something unusual about the oil when I poured it I would have stopped and investigated. If I saw this online I would be sceptical too.
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I made a reply somewhere on this website about a problem my dad encountered once.
He bought a '72 Gran Torino Sport 429, auto, from my uncle. He went to drain the oil and it looked exactly like that goop in the pan. The valve train was so gunked up he had to physically remove all of the sludge. My uncle told my dad that he had not changed the oil in over 10-15K miles. Now, you have to remember, this was in 1976. Quaker State and Pennzoil were wax oils and my uncle used QS in in the engine.


I wonder if this is the route my mechanic will say. Is it easy to remove and reinstall the valve train? I never done so and scared of messing it up. But I want to see the oil passages.

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: Jooksing


TY. Initially I had the fear that it was my engine leaking the coolant into the oil causing this. After the UOA I am now relieve that it was not my engine that caused this. (Also super relieve that they did not detect high metal content).


Wait, so did you get your sample results from Blackstone?

Yep.. got it yesterday. Posted maybe 3-4 pages ago....

 

[Jooksing]

Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
I simply don’t believe that came out of a sealed M1 bottle. M1 bottles are sealed with a security cap and a foil seal.

I also don’t understand how it poured into the engine without notice, I suppose its possible that whatever it is was activated by heat, but what would fit that description that would still look and smell like oil before heating? Perhaps what dissolves it is a clue to what it is?

Any chance for someone to tamper with the vehicle? You got anyone mad at you?
Only person mad is the wife, as I was replying to thread in bed late at night... But she in not crazy like that.

Another thing I am shocked if this is not motor oil is that there was no wear after 1500miles.

 

[RoadRaceJosh]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Jooksing
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL


You first need to figure out what readily dissolves this stuff before running a flush. No use running one with a product that won't touch it.


Agreed, Hence what I have several containers of goop + solvent.. will continue to research on it.


Research?

Grab a few samples, hit it with some:

- Dawn dishwashing liquid
- Brake Kleen
- Gasoline
- Oven cleaner

Whichever one has the most dramatic effect, use that.


Don't ever use oven cleaner on anything aluminum. Go outside with some aluminum foil and spray it with oven cleaner if you don't believe me.

 

[D45678]

Years ago, I was sold counterfeit bulk oil by a supposedly reputable distributor. The products were Mobil and Chevron Texaco. I became aware of the counterfeit issue only after suffering engine damage and transmission damage to some John Deere farm equipment. At no time did I suspect Chevron of Mobil to be at fault. By the time I encountered the issues I did, other entities supplied by the same distributor had experienced similar issues, so suspicion was upon the distributor.

Mobil and Chevron sent reps to collect samples, Chevron went so far as to have a reference test sample of gear lubricant sent to me from of all places CITGO, who had manufactured the gear oil under Texaco label.

Chevron tested the product and confirmed it was not authentic,and cooperated with my attorney during the lawsuit against the distributor. Mobil refused to share the results of their testing and would only confirm by telephone that the product sample was not Delvac 1300 oil. Mobil later went so far as to deny they had ever sampled the oil, and failed to respond to a court order to provide the test results. Mobil did however use the test results in their own case against the distributor.

With Chevron's help as well as my own independent test results, I did prevail in the lawsuit, and did collect my damages plus attorney and court costs. I have never spent another cent with Mobil or ExxonMobil.

My reason for sharing this is to let you know to expect zero help from ExxonMobil is pursuing a case for what appears to be an adulterated product.

 

[Jooksing]

Originally Posted By: CJWinWA
Years ago, I was sold counterfeit bulk oil by a supposedly reputable distributor. The products were Mobil and Chevron Texaco. I became aware of the counterfeit issue only after suffering engine damage and transmission damage to some John Deere farm equipment. At no time did I suspect Chevron of Mobil to be at fault. By the time I encountered the issues I did, other entities supplied by the same distributor had experienced similar issues, so suspicion was upon the distributor.

Mobil and Chevron sent reps to collect samples, Chevron went so far as to have a reference test sample of gear lubricant sent to me from of all places CITGO, who had manufactured the gear oil under Texaco label.

Chevron tested the product and confirmed it was not authentic,and cooperated with my attorney during the lawsuit against the distributor. Mobil refused to share the results of their testing and would only confirm by telephone that the product sample was not Delvac 1300 oil. Mobil later went so far as to deny they had ever sampled the oil, and failed to respond to a court order to provide the test results. Mobil did however use the test results in their own case against the distributor.

With Chevron's help as well as my own independent test results, I did prevail in the lawsuit, and did collect my damages plus attorney and court costs. I have never spent another cent with Mobil or ExxonMobil.

My reason for sharing this is to let you know to expect zero help from ExxonMobil is pursuing a case for what appears to be an adulterated product.






Wow.. that is crazy! Chances is that I am a little guy that will get threatened. And my videos and post will disappear. People would will forget and life goes on... I understand large corporations and they want to protect their interest. I just want to figure out how to get my car on the road without worries. I am glad that things worked out for you... Not sure if I want to go through all that. Part of me wants to stop posting as it does not benefit me but a long shot in finding people like you to tell me I am not crazy.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Did you save the Walmart receipt from original purchase? Like someone earlier had said,I wonder if the barcode on the jug can have it's transactions traced,to see if you'd bought a returned product.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Did you save the Walmart receipt from original purchase? Like someone earlier had said,I wonder if the barcode on the jug can have it's transactions traced,to see if you'd bought a returned product.


That is a good idea, if they want to bother. I have a feeling XOM is going to deny any blame. If there are no other complaints, [none are appearing other than this one on the www.] then they would be right in doing so. OTOH if that jug was in fact returned to Walmart then Walmart is to blame for not checking, and the OP can attempt to seek compensation from Walmart for their screw up. However Walmart can claim the jug was fine when it left the store, and it can become a circle jerk.