Muslims lost part of a Mosque today in Fallujah

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FALLUJAH, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. Marines, backed by helicopter gunships and fighter jets, engaged in a raging firefight Monday with insurgents in Fallujah, a stronghold of resistance to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq.

CNN's Karl Penhaul described the scene Monday for the U.S. networks pool.

PENHAUL: Sporadic gunfire can still be heard echoing across this northwest corner of the city of Fallujah.

It was a very different picture though this morning and early afternoon because the area just behind me was the scene of some very intense gunbattles.

The Marines say [it was] one of the most intense gunbattles that they have had in the two or three weeks that the supposed cease-fire has been in place here in Fallujah.

Before dawn, the U.S. networks pool headed out with a Marine platoon. ...

The Marines went and occupied two buildings. They were occupying those so that they could look out for suspected Iraqi insurgents.

Snipers posed some positions on the other side and deeper into the city. They holed up in those buildings for about four or five hours. Then in the words of one Marine, "All **** broke loose."

Iraqi insurgents had massed around the two buildings occupied by Marines, and they opened fire with mortars, with rockets, with automatic weapons fire.

While we were inside that building, we saw rockets smashing into the sides of the buildings, rockets smashing through the windows.

We heard mortar rounds landing nearby, exploding and setting neighboring buildings on fire.

After about an hour and a half, the Marine commander gave the order for his troops to pull back, and that they did with the help of two U.S. tanks that were also called in to assist.

The Marines withdrew from two alleys and returned to one section of their base.

The firefight, though, continued for a good two hours after that. [There were] very heavy exchanges of gunfire; U.S. Marine Cobra attack helicopters were called in.

They were firing off missiles, and also we're told a mortar platoon from further back in the rear was firing off 8-millimeter mortars, and those impacted in a number of buildings behind us, setting them on fire and sending plumes of black smoke into the air.

Also, there was a mosque ... here; it had a minaret 50 to 60 feet high. Marine commanders say they were taking sniper fire from that minaret.

That minaret has now been leveled by U.S. military ordnance, missiles and mortars. There's nothing left at all of that minaret. ...

[ April 26, 2004, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: ALS ]
 
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FALLUJAH, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. Marines, backed by helicopter gunships and fighter jets, engaged in a raging firefight Monday with insurgents in Fallujah, a stronghold of resistance to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq.
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Also, there was a mosque ... here; it had a minaret 50 to 60 feet high. Marine commanders say they were taking sniper fire from that minaret.

That minaret has now been leveled by U.S. military ordnance, missiles and mortars. There's nothing left at all of that minaret. ...


I guess no one told the Iraqis that although mosques make nice sanctuaries, shooting at US Marines from within the sanctuary voids the warranty.
 
Even NPR made more of a point of the fact that insurgents were IN THE MOSQUE firing at our boys, and that is why it was leveled. Seems like a good enough reason to me. The extensive news coverage of this war has got to be a crippling factor for our military, if there was less media there they could do their job without being demonized for defending themselves by destroying an enemy position DURING BATTLE.

Anyone seen figures on how many Iraqi civilians the insurgents have killed and wounded? They have far less accurate weapons and less training, not to mention they are the ones starting battles in the cities, seems to me they would be killing more inoccent people, but we won't see any numbers on that will we.
 
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The extensive news coverage of this war has got to be a crippling factor for our military, if there was less media there they could do their job without being demonized for defending themselves by destroying an enemy position DURING BATTLE

I couldn't agree more with this statement. If this were WWII they would have shelled the crap out of that city and went in with tanks and infantry and wiped the town clean in 1 afternoon. We are losing too many of our men trying to be nice, I say to heck with them and blow any building they are in flat, be it a mosque, school whatever.
 
If they don;t want for Mosque's to be fired on, maybe they should not be storing ammo in the Mosque's. And maybe they should not be shooting at people from the Mosque's.

Have you noticed that the leaders of these terrorists, who are more then willing to send people on suicide missions, seem very unwilling themselves to die? They like to hide out in religious facilities.
 
Mounting an attack from a mosque immediately cancels it's validity as a place of worship, turning into just any old building that an attack is coming from.
 
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Mounting an attack from a mosque immediately cancels it's validity as a place of worship, turning into just any old building that an attack is coming from.

As the say in the car biz, "voids the warranty".

You have to read the manual and follow directions if you expect the warranty to be respected.
 
One of the things we are not doing right in this war is broadcasting our side of the story to all of the Middle East.
 
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