Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 5w30 work more than fine. it is an extremely thin 5W30. i see no reasons of using 0W30. my vehicle start like it is nothing all winter. it is much thinner than Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W30. and yes i know the differences between 0W30 and 5W30. and i also know that Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 5w30 works flawlessly for me in winter. and it keeps Mazda happy.
MRV Pennzoil ultra platinum
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4,400. Pennzoil's is 4000. Amsoil's 3,9xx
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No comparison at all, that's almost 5,000. Pennzoil is way superior, gets beat only by Amsoil and that also by a hair. Amsoil is 3,968 to be exact.
thanks all for the Castrol info, as I looked it up too, the oil that I would like to see the mrv and true ccs is Valvoline Extended Protection 0w20 & 5w-30 along with the Valvoline Restore and Protect .tried to call Valvoline and they are tight lipped on their specifications ,only the generic printed specs, the guy I talked to said I would not even understand this spec,,makes (very insulting) me not to want to use their products though they are probably good , as too Mobil is not saying much as to their ccs and mrv either. Seems like a secret with some oil company's (MRV&CCS) along with TRUE pour points.
Pour point is outdated and imprecise in terms of winter performance. Unless you're just using it to try and deduce base oil composition, which isn't that accurate either given the use of pour point depressants.
Pour point is a bit like flash point when it comes to motor oil.
thanks for clarifying this that's why I found ccs and mrv more meaning full especially at cold starting temps with regards to viscosity. now if more of the blenders/manufactures will publish such specs.
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Valvoline 5w30 is 6,200 and 0w20 6000. Unimpressive!
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If OP is into Pennzoil, then they should go for Pennzoil's real nectar. Ignore the Ultra Platinum nonsense.
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I am honestly not very biased towards brand, I just want a thick-ish 0w20 or a mid range 5w30 that is active against deposits. I would say pennzoil ultra platinum is overkill for my truck but it's a "clean" oil and why get platinum when you can get the ultra platinum for a couple bucks more. I want/wanted to run Valvoline Restore and Protect for a couple OCI at first and then switch to a regular oil since the previous owner did 7-9k OCI, but when I called Valvoline the person I spoke to told me it was a "lifetime" oil and once you switch to Valvoline Restore and Protect that you shouldn't really switch again, which doesn't make much sense but that's what I was told by Valvoline.
That doesn’t make much sense because it’s nonsense. Disregard that blather.
Valvoline does promote 4 OCIs for best cleaning results and from posts here that is true.
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Sadly the people who man the customer service team at major oil companies usually have little actual technical expertise so their advice is often wrong
Is this your sole criteria for choosing the oil? Typical values they may not be accurate nor meaningful?
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Cold weather performance is being discussed. Valvoline's CCS(and MRV I assume) are unimpressive when compared to the competition.
They will still pump at the limits of the testing temperature for the winter rating. That’s what really matters. As long as it pumps it will flow.
Are you starting at a temperature of -35?
There's a video from P.F on Y.T. that includes 2 cold flow tests ( new / used ) of 4 different 5w-30 PENNZOIL products ( Y.B ( synblend ) , Full Synthetic , Platinum , Ultra ) placed 3 years ago . This video also has a V.O.A. for each type of oil . In another P.F. video entered one year ago he tests 4 of the PENNZOIL Platinum weights ( 5w-30 , 5w-20 , 0w-20 , 0w-16 ) and it includes a V.O.A. for each . All are S.P..
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Valvoline is not 6,200 for the 5w30 and 6000 for the 0w20. It is actually <6200 for the 5w30 and <6000 for the 5w20. The pour points listed are <-36. The less than symbol (<) is easy to miss. I didn't pay any attention to them first few times I looked at the sheets.
I have never had trouble with cars starting in cold weather with Valvoline Maxlife synthetic, Maxlife blend or conventional. The Maxlife synthetic performed a lot better than the Maxlife blend or conventional and is one of the best I have used in cold weather.
I have never had trouble with cars starting in cold weather with Valvoline Maxlife synthetic, Maxlife blend or conventional. The Maxlife synthetic performed a lot better than the Maxlife blend or conventional and is one of the best I have used in cold weather.
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It’s not just about pumping. At super cold temps, batteries and starters benefit from lower resistance.
It can make the difference between starting and not starting sometimes.
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