Motorcraft oil for 2014 Dodge Grand Caravan?

[tamedcowboy]

I was wondering of Motorcraft Semi-Syn 5w-20 would be a good choice for my 2014 Dodge Grand Caravan? The owner's manual recommends Pennzoil or Shell Helix 5w-20, but I can get Motorcraft at my local AutoZone for the same money. Seems like a semi-syn would be better than conventional, but wasn't sure.

 

[Dallas69]

It's a good oil made by Conoco Phillips

 

[charbaby]

Yes but, any 5W20 will work fine and you'll find your preference! Walmart* Super Tech 5W20 for $12.**/5 qt JUG will work fine too!

 

[UNC151]

According to your owner's manual, you must use oil meeting Chrysler specification:

We recommend you use API Certified SAE 5W-20 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395 such as MOPAR®, Pennzoil®, and Shell Helix®. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade.

Assuming your van is still under warranty, does Motorcraft oil meet that specification?

 

[tamedcowboy]

I have no idea. I would assume yes, but I don't know for certain.

 

[sicko]

Motorcraft 5w-20 is an excellent oil made by Conoco/Phillips, and I don't think I've ever seen a bad UOA for it. However, because of the Motorcraft/Ford relationship, I don't know if they would actually pay for the the testing to list other car manufacturer's certifications on their oil.

I have no doubt that it would be able to pass the MS-6395 requirements because Conoco/Phillips oils are very similar to one another, and Motorcraft is very similar to Trop Artic and 76 Super (both Conoco Phillips oils), and both of those meet the MS-6395 requirements. In fact, the oils are so similar, you can probably find Trop Artic or 76 Super oil near you for less than Motorcraft, and that way you're basically using the oil you want (Motorcraft), but using oils that meet the manufacturer's requirements.

Though technically they are not saying that you *have* to use MS-6395 oil. They just *recommend* that you do. It's up to you to decide if you want to fight that battle if it ever becomes an issue.

 

[kmcavin]

I thought sure it would be listed here:
http://www.noln.net/sites/default/files/SpecialtyMotorOil_Online%5B2%5D.pdf

But they don't show Motorcraft oil. As Sicko said above, the Conoco/Phillips oils (with the exception of European and racing) meet the Chrysler standard.

 

[UNC151]

Originally Posted By: sicko
Though technically they are not saying that you *have* to use MS-6395 oil. They just *recommend* that you do. It's up to you to decide if you want to fight that battle if it ever becomes an issue.

Symantics, BUT, are they recommending to meet the specification or are they recommending to use MOPAR®, Pennzoil®, or Shell Helix®?

 

[dlundblad]

Does this have the Pentastar?

 

[tamedcowboy]

Yes, the owner's manual actually recommends MOPAR, Pennzoil or Shell Helix motor oil.

 

[tamedcowboy]

Yes. 3.6L Pentastar.

 

[jk_636]

Motorcraft is a great semisynthetic oil and is cheap at Walmart. $17 for a 5 quart jug. Can't beat that!

 

[tamedcowboy]

Yeah, no Motorcraft there, but I did notice pretty much all the Conoco Phillips oils meet the requirement. Thank you for sharing. I think I'll steer away from Motorcraft until the warranty expires. Also, pardon my ignorance, but is Pennzoil conventional a semi-syn?

 

[Oily_hair]

Originally Posted By: tamedcowboy
Yeah, no Motorcraft there, but I did notice pretty much all the Conoco Phillips oils meet the requirement. Thank you for sharing. I think I'll steer away from Motorcraft until the warranty expires. Also, pardon my ignorance, but is Pennzoil conventional a semi-syn?


No, Pennzoil conventional is a conventional oil...Pennzoil Gold is a Syn-Blend

Pennzoil Gold

 

[dlundblad]

Using the MC blend will likely void your warranty. Good oil no doubt, but Chrysler wont care if the need arises. (Hopefully it never does.)

The Pentastar is very easy on oil. I cant stress this enough. Guys get 9k+ out of Pennzoil conventional easily. I would use that, but pick whatever meets the proper spec and change according to the OLM.

 

[UNC151]

Originally Posted By: tamedcowboy
Yes, the owner's manual actually recommends MOPAR, Pennzoil or Shell Helix motor oil.

I understand the 3 brands listed, but (and again it is semantics), but is it the oil brands they are recommending and requiring the MS-6395 or are they recommending both and not requiring the MS-6395 specification? It is weak wording at best the way that it is written in the owner's manual.

 

[webfors]

Valvoline conventional on sale. Meets the spec, good oil, always impresses me on used oil analysis.

I bought a stash of 5L jugs for $9.99 each at Walmart 1.5 years ago.

 

[tamedcowboy]

Thanks.

 

[tamedcowboy]

Recommending but not requiring.

 

[tamedcowboy]

Thank you.

Originally Posted By: Oily_hair
Originally Posted By: tamedcowboy
Yeah, no Motorcraft there, but I did notice pretty much all the Conoco Phillips oils meet the requirement. Thank you for sharing. I think I'll steer away from Motorcraft until the warranty expires. Also, pardon my ignorance, but is Pennzoil conventional a semi-syn?


No, Pennzoil conventional is a conventional oil...Pennzoil Gold is a Syn-Blend

Pennzoil Gold