Dose anyone here know what the Motorcraft Fl-1A By-Pass Valve Setting is in PSI?
Motorcraft Fl-1A By-Pass Valve Setting
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FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roushstage2,
Thanks for reply. Do you have the same info for the Roush oil filter that corresponds to the MC FL1A?
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roushstage2,
Thanks for reply. Do you have the same info for the Roush oil filter that corresponds to the MC FL1A?
I doubt Roush will make that available, but I'll see what I can find, if anything.
This is all the info about those filters I can find ATM:
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The new ROUSH Oil Filters hold twice the capacity of the leading brand, and offer a high-efficiency 99.2 percent contaminants capture rate thanks to the
superior cellulose and synthetic blend material used in the filter material.
The heavy-duty case is designed to withstand five times the typical engine operating pressure; this results in not only the ability to better withstand the
cold start surges but also enhanced protection from road debris. A "no-stick," internally-lubricated, low torque gasket allows for a tight seal, as well as
easy removal, and the silicone anti-drainback valve keeps the oil in the canister and prevents against dry starts.
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The new ROUSH Oil Filters hold twice the capacity of the leading brand, and offer a high-efficiency 99.2 percent contaminants capture rate thanks to the
superior cellulose and synthetic blend material used in the filter material.
The heavy-duty case is designed to withstand five times the typical engine operating pressure; this results in not only the ability to better withstand the
cold start surges but also enhanced protection from road debris. A "no-stick," internally-lubricated, low torque gasket allows for a tight seal, as well as
easy removal, and the silicone anti-drainback valve keeps the oil in the canister and prevents against dry starts.
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
I doubt Roush will make that available, but I'll see what I can find, if anything.
I am having trouble finding out from Roush myself. I sent them an email but have had no response, so I called them yesterday and talked to a technical representative. When I asked him what the valve setting was, he didn't know what I was talking about. He said he would have to talk to the purchasing agent ! Anyway guys like that do not make the product good or bad. He then read me the description from their web site. Hope you can find out more.
I doubt Roush will make that available, but I'll see what I can find, if anything.
I am having trouble finding out from Roush myself. I sent them an email but have had no response, so I called them yesterday and talked to a technical representative. When I asked him what the valve setting was, he didn't know what I was talking about. He said he would have to talk to the purchasing agent ! Anyway guys like that do not make the product good or bad. He then read me the description from their web site. Hope you can find out more.
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
I talked to someone today, and he said he didn't have access to anything that would tell him that. He did say, that since it is a direct replacement for an OEM filter (not a racing filter), it should have the same specs as the one it is replacing. He said that they probably wouldn't want to risk any damage to an engine by changing it from what it should be. I know it sounds generic, but it does make logical sense. 
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
I talked to someone today, and he said he didn't have access to anything that would tell him that. He did say, that since it is a direct replacement for an OEM filter (not a racing filter), it should have the same specs as the one it is replacing. He said that they probably wouldn't want to risk any damage to an engine by changing it from what it should be. I know it sounds generic, but it does make logical sense.
Do you know whether the by-pass valve is located in the threaded end, like the FL1A, or the domed end?
I talked to someone today, and he said he didn't have access to anything that would tell him that. He did say, that since it is a direct replacement for an OEM filter (not a racing filter), it should have the same specs as the one it is replacing. He said that they probably wouldn't want to risk any damage to an engine by changing it from what it should be. I know it sounds generic, but it does make logical sense.
Do you know whether the by-pass valve is located in the threaded end, like the FL1A, or the domed end?
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roush: Is this the actual Motorcraft spec??? Many of us have been looking in vain to find a detailed source of actual Motorcraft specs. We usually substitute with Wix specs for the equivalent filter, but knowing those specs are not exactly the same. If you can share a source, it would be GREAT. If you have a source but can't reveal it, be prepared to be inundated with requests to look up filters... such as the FL820S, the FL1995, FL784 and so on ( : < ). Thanks!
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roush: Is this the actual Motorcraft spec??? Many of us have been looking in vain to find a detailed source of actual Motorcraft specs. We usually substitute with Wix specs for the equivalent filter, but knowing those specs are not exactly the same. If you can share a source, it would be GREAT. If you have a source but can't reveal it, be prepared to be inundated with requests to look up filters... such as the FL820S, the FL1995, FL784 and so on ( : < ). Thanks!
Originally Posted By: john1944
Do you know whether the by-pass valve is located in the threaded end, like the FL1A, or the domed end?
He didn't know for certain, but again, he said everything should be the same. Sorry it's not more, but it's as far as I'm going to get as well, more than likely. Maybe when I see Jack this summer, I'll ask him about it.
Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roush: Is this the actual Motorcraft spec??? Many of us have been looking in vain to find a detailed source of actual Motorcraft specs. We usually substitute with Wix specs for the equivalent filter, but knowing those specs are not exactly the same. If you can share a source, it would be GREAT. If you have a source but can't reveal it, be prepared to be inundated with requests to look up filters... such as the FL820S, the FL1995, FL784 and so on ( : < ). Thanks!
That's the only one I could find too, actually. Summitracing.com is where I get them. If people need/want those specs, I can see what I can do about finding them.
Do you know whether the by-pass valve is located in the threaded end, like the FL1A, or the domed end?
He didn't know for certain, but again, he said everything should be the same. Sorry it's not more, but it's as far as I'm going to get as well, more than likely. Maybe when I see Jack this summer, I'll ask him about it.
Originally Posted By: Jim Allen
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
FL1A
Oil Filter Style Canister
Height (in) 5.190 in.
Outside Diameter (in) 3.780 in.
Filter Bypass Relief Valve Yes
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Anti-Drainback Valve Yes
Smallest Particle Filtered 20 microns
Maximum Burst Pressure (psi) 200 psi
Thread Size 3/4-16 in.
Gasket Outside Diameter (in) 2.800 in.
Gasket Inside Diameter (in) 2.422 in.
Gasket Thickness (in) 0.203 in.
Roush: Is this the actual Motorcraft spec??? Many of us have been looking in vain to find a detailed source of actual Motorcraft specs. We usually substitute with Wix specs for the equivalent filter, but knowing those specs are not exactly the same. If you can share a source, it would be GREAT. If you have a source but can't reveal it, be prepared to be inundated with requests to look up filters... such as the FL820S, the FL1995, FL784 and so on ( : < ). Thanks!
That's the only one I could find too, actually. Summitracing.com is where I get them. If people need/want those specs, I can see what I can do about finding them.
I've made calls and sent e-mails. Did run into this though: http://www.fordparts.com/Products/Filters.aspx
Apparently the filters can go 10K. Also goes through the filter construction.
Apparently the filters can go 10K. Also goes through the filter construction.
Found this info here for the FL820S: http://home.mindspring.com/~ed_white/id7.html
You're welcome. Those specs are there if you click on the actual line that says Motorcraft FL-820S. The names in the list are all hyperlinks. I will post back if/when I hear anything else about my inquiries I made today.
I will post back if/when I hear anything else about my inquiries I made today.Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
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Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Just to be a bit of devils advocate here, but what exactly is "Relief Valve Open pressure" anyway?
Alex.
Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Just to be a bit of devils advocate here, but what exactly is "Relief Valve Open pressure" anyway?
Alex.
Originally Posted By: GMGuy
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Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Just to be a bit of devils advocate here, but what exactly is "Relief Valve Open pressure" anyway?
Alex.
It's the PSID across the media when the bypass valve opens. "Relief Valve" = "Bypass Valve".
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Relief Valve Open (psi) 11-14 psi
Just to be a bit of devils advocate here, but what exactly is "Relief Valve Open pressure" anyway?
Alex.
It's the PSID across the media when the bypass valve opens. "Relief Valve" = "Bypass Valve".
Originally Posted By: john1944
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
Never seen that before, but it does seem like another very likely candidate!
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
Never seen that before, but it does seem like another very likely candidate!
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Originally Posted By: john1944
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
Never seen that before, but it does seem like another very likely candidate!
Went to a Ford dealer yesterday that carries Roush. We looked at a Roush FL1A and it is basically a Mobil 1 301EP manufactured by Champion. It has the same canister, same 8 hole pattern - one hole being larger with a D next to it, and same threaded bypass. It cost about $11 at Ford - cheaper than the Mobil 1. It is definitely not a CM-6731-FL1A painted black. I bought one.
Originally Posted By: john1944
Originally Posted By: roushstage2
Like I said in another thread, Roush and Valvoline have teamed up now. Their "ROUSH" oil is a supposed specially formulated Valvoline. If I had to guess, it's a Valvoline filter. I thought I saw something before that they were made by Champion Labs, who also makes the SuperTech filters. The Roush filter and SuperTech both have black housings and the numbering is almost the exact same: Roush is RF8A and SuperTech is ST8A. I'm sure you can see what the only difference is. Based on the information that is available, at present, I'd venture to say it's some sort of beefed up SuperTech filter since it has cellulose and synthetic blend material in it.
The Roush FL1A equivalent seems to me to be the CM-6731-FL1A painted black. If it is, the Roush is cheaper. I am thinking of buying one from Roush.
Never seen that before, but it does seem like another very likely candidate!
Went to a Ford dealer yesterday that carries Roush. We looked at a Roush FL1A and it is basically a Mobil 1 301EP manufactured by Champion. It has the same canister, same 8 hole pattern - one hole being larger with a D next to it, and same threaded bypass. It cost about $11 at Ford - cheaper than the Mobil 1. It is definitely not a CM-6731-FL1A painted black. I bought one.
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