Motive Pressure Bleeder adapter for Hondas

Interesting hypothesis. But my experience doesn't validate that enough moisture is pushed into the brake fluid to make any measurable difference.

I've been using a Motive for many years now, and have done a number of brake fluid flushes with it. I also use a brake fluid moisture gauge to measure the % moisture in the brake fluid. The gauge has a range of 0-4% moisture with 1% resolution. I have never measured any moisture in brake fluid that has been added to my brake system by using the Motive method, until the brake fluid is 2 - 3 years old. It takes that long before I measure even 1% moisture. It is recommended to change brake fluid at 3% or greater moisture. My OCD means I change it much sooner than that. I've never measured 2%.

Your experience may be different, depending on the climate you live in, how humid of a day when you do a brake fluid job, and how long you leave the jug lid off, when filling it. It is a relatively dry climate where I live, with RH usually around 20-40% in the summer and 50-75% in the winter.
And I would agree with you. It probably doesn't make any difference. However, in theory there is a difference, however slight.

Let me add, I own and have used a Motive pressure bleeder. Once. I was surprised how much pressure was required to move any significant amount of brake fluid. Not only was it slow compared to brake pedal bleeding, I was uncomfortable with pressurizing the fluid reservoir. I kept having thoughts of the reservoir popping off the master cylinder, the reservoir splitting open, or the cap popping off and spraying brake fluid everywhere. No question its primary benefit is that you can bleed brakes single handidly, but my wife Sue is more than willing to help with that.

Like I said, it probably doesn't make any difference, it's just one of those tools I didn't like using.

Scott
 
Right now I have some quick connecters so I can separate the hose to the Motive bleed jug, from the hose to the Motive cap at the master cylinder and rig up a quick connecter
If I was to use a CTA Tools cap I would need a Nitto female quick connecter at the end of the cap, a piece of hose and another quick connector to join the lines.


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I'm not a fan of those. All you're doing is introducing moisture when you pressurize the unit. Professional pressure bleeders have a diaphragm that separates the brake fluid from the pressurized air.

Scott
The diaphragm models exist, but are extremely rare. Most “professional” brake flush machines are electric. If you use shop air from a compressor with a drier, it probably isn’t as big of a deal as the textbooks suggest.
 
I struggled with the same thing on my RDX. I finally gave up and just ran a hose from the bleeder into a bottle with brake fluid. I’d open the bleeder, go pump the brakes a couple of times, close the bleeder and then refill the reservoir. Works like a charm.
 
I'm using this cap and a Motive pressure bleeder. I simply stuffed the Motive hose over the barb and sealed it with a hose clamp. Works great.

When bleeding, I don't bother with brake fluid in the bleeder. Just watch the level in the master and top off are needed.

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I have a Gunson, and a Motive, and wish there were better options on the market for a quality, affordable pressure bleeder.

The Gunson is powered by a compressed air source, like a tire, and works well, but suffers in parts execution. The gaskets are crudely cut, and the tire chuck pops off the hose too easily. But, it was cheap, and more practical to use than the Motive.

The Motive was also relative cheap, but that still meant double what the Gunson cost.

It suffers from its humble origins being derived from a garden sprayer, like many a homebrew solution. For a DIYer, the reservoir is unnecessarily large and bulky, even if one has the need to do all the vehicles in their household fleet in one session. Don't opt the fancy swivel cap, and the stiff tubing used for the hose to the cap will fight you. Like many a sprayer, or other plastic consumer-grade pressure/vacuum vessel, it will lose integrity and need remedy. I see the addition of a tire stem hack in my Motive's future, to allow for an external pressure source, because I don't see the pump going to distance.

Like the Gunson, it will do the job, but I would not consider it a candidate for any personal "favorite tool" honor. At least for most folks, it only needs to be dragged out every two to three years.

But. it is basically a shadetree hack turned into a commercial product, not a tool conceived as a tool in origin. The guys who originally started the company probably did ok, as did the second owner, and I would also assume the current owner, given their history.

To me, the market still lacks a durable, consumer-friendly, but tool-quality alternative that doesn't require the weariness that a potential mishap like a rocket RUD is a probable risk.

It's not rocket science, and doesn't require aerospace-grade parts, but still surely something better, and more bespoke is possible, given the manufacturing capacity available in the world. Who's got some spare startup capital?
 
I have a Gunson, and a Motive, and wish there were better options on the market for a quality, affordable pressure bleeder.

The Gunson is powered by a compressed air source, like a tire, and works well, but suffers in parts execution. The gaskets are crudely cut, and the tire chuck pops off the hose too easily. But, it was cheap, and more practical to use than the Motive.

The Motive was also relative cheap, but that still meant double what the Gunson cost.

It suffers from its humble origins being derived from a garden sprayer, like many a homebrew solution. For a DIYer, the reservoir is unnecessarily large and bulky, even if one has the need to do all the vehicles in their household fleet in one session. Don't opt the fancy swivel cap, and the stiff tubing used for the hose to the cap will fight you. Like many a sprayer, or other plastic consumer-grade pressure/vacuum vessel, it will lose integrity and need remedy. I see the addition of a tire stem hack in my Motive's future, to allow for an external pressure source, because I don't see the pump going to distance.

Like the Gunson, it will do the job, but I would not consider it a candidate for any personal "favorite tool" honor. At least for most folks, it only needs to be dragged out every two to three years.

But. it is basically a shadetree hack turned into a commercial product, not a tool conceived as a tool in origin. The guys who originally started the company probably did ok, as did the second owner, and I would also assume the current owner, given their history.

To me, the market still lacks a durable, consumer-friendly, but tool-quality alternative that doesn't require the weariness that a potential mishap like a rocket RUD is a probable risk.

It's not rocket science, and doesn't require aerospace-grade parts, but still surely something better, and more bespoke is possible, given the manufacturing capacity available in the world. Who's got some spare startup capital?
I use the Speedibleed pressure bleeder and it works very well and the adapters are quality. It works with the air pressure from a tire as well.
https://speedibleed.com/
 
I have one that uses a double o-ring and has a metal collar that gets installed to hold together. Works perfect.
 
Those are good solutions but for the purists using multiple brand caps does anyone know the name and where to acquire a quick connect for the CM Tool cap?

Why do you need a quick connect? Just switch the nipple or stuff the hose over the existing one and use a clamp. This is not rocket science. The CM Tools cap is readily available and cheap.
 
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