Most reliable engine, independent of oil used?

[passport]

There is one brand which has been around almost since there have been cars. They aren't found much in the US but are very common in the middle east and africa where most of the roads are unpaved and good mechanics are rare as white rhinos. They come in both gasoline and diesel models and are virtually indestructible.

Can anybody take a guess?

 

[ThirdeYe]

Willy's? Don't know

 

[Spitty]

Al, I agree with the problems with the latter 22R's, There is an aftermarket, steel backed timing chain rail that solves this problem. Too bad Toyota had to spoil an otherwise Bulletproof engine!

 

[Spitty]

Tatra??

 

[Al]

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Al, I agree with the problems with the latter 22R's, There is an aftermarket, steel backed timing chain rail that solves this problem. Too bad Toyota had to spoil an otherwise Bulletproof engine!

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Yea 10-4 on the bullet proof engine. And unfortunately I had Toyota do the repair and I suppose they put in the same retarded plastic parts.

 

[passport]

Likely the most reliable engines inspite of their lack of maintenence and third world owners is the Peugeot . The 504 has an especially rugged and simple engine.

These cars are old but still widely used as taxis in africa.
I believe that they still make new 504s someplace over there also. Imagine purchasing a brand new 30+ year old african made car.

 

[JHZR2]

Yep, like the w123 Mercedes diesels, those are excellent cars for longevity!

JMH

 

[Triple_Se7en]

GM 3800 V6
GM/American Motors/Chrysler 2.5 4 cyl.
Chrysler 4.0 6-cyl.

 

[Eddie]

The MIL spec. AMC 240 cu in I6 which later became the 4.0 (258 cu in I6).

 

[jdm90]

How about the Ford 2.3 four cylinder ?

 

[Patman]

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How about the Ford 2.3 four cylinder ?

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I've known a number of people up here who have gotten some long life out of those little engines! My uncle had over 200,000 miles on his 89 Topaz before he got rid of it. The engine was still running great, it was the transmission which went first (it didn't have reverse anymore).

 

[Zaedock]

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The MIL spec. AMC 240 cu in I6 which later became the 4.0 (258 cu in I6).

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The 4.0L is 242ci and the 258 is a 4.2L.
The MIL spec jeep engine I think you mean is the 230ci OHC "Tornado" engine which is not related to the 4.0L. The 258 and 4.0L were derived from the 199/232 I6 engines of the early 60's.

 

[smokey1]

1.) 1.6 ltr. cast iron engine by Toyota , bought 86 Chevy Nova and did 2 paper routes , 1 day on weekend for 98 mis. and little under 300 stops and another 365 days at about 99 mis. and avg. of 70 stops a day . Finally pooped out at 274,000 mis. If I had a backhoe would of buried it in back yard . 2.) Toyota 1.8 ltr. aluminum block , know 1 person w/over 300,000 mis. , mostly highway . 3.) 1.3 ltr. Mazda found in the FORD FESTIVA , seen those engines go thru the ringer , amazing little engine .

 

[smokey1]

oh , bought the '86 Nova w/100,000 mis. on it for $1,000 from a minister , I swear he must of used Holy Water in cooling system.

 

[cousincletus]

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oh , bought the '86 Nova w/100,000 mis. on it for $1,000 from a minister , I swear he must of used Holy Water in cooling system.

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Was the radiator "hole-y"?

 

[passport]

There are lots of old still in service after 30+ years. We had an old John Deere on my uncle's farm and it had to be from the 1940s (this was in the 60's). I bet it is still running.

Most are 4 cylinder gas and run at low RPMs only but still they have tons of hours on them.

I remember when we got a brand new Ford diesel tractor. That's probably still running too. No synthetic oils back then.

 

[MoparManiac]

heres a vote for;
AMC 4.0L I-6
and of course the MOPAR Slant Six
either of these can easily go 400,000 plus

 

[Steve S]

Oil wouldn't make any difference !

 

[Silk]

The highest mileage car I've seen a was Holden Commodore at over 860,000km,dunno how many miles that is.These use the rear wheel drive version of the GM3800,I've never even pulled a head on one.

Toughest engine has to be the Mazda 2500 V6.They are not reliable in that we got them in for continuous water and oil leaks.I've seen them over heated so many times,so far as to render the oil down to tar and block the pick up....but I've never seen one blow a head gasket or lock up the engine.They come in as non runners and despite pronouncing them as dead,when repaired they run just fine.

 

[Jeremiah]

Longest lasting of all time:
Mercedes Benz Diesel used in their W123's. But... diesel by it's nature goes longer than most gasers. It's common for these to go past 500,000 before needing a rebuild... then they can go for another 300-500k miles. There's reports of these engines going over 1,000,000 miles overseas where diesel engines are more popular (due to their reliability and superior gas mileage).

My favorite gasers:
Toyota 1.8 liter, 7A-FE: Found in the Celicas, Corolas and Camry's. Known for smooth operation, and reliability. JD power & associates awarded the Celica the "Most Reliable Used Car" more than any other vehicle.
Toyota 22RE: They're heavy, but SUPER reliable. IMO the best I-4 truck engine ever built hands down.
Volvo red's: Won't win races, but it'll get you there over and over and over again.
GM 3800

I don't like the BMW engines, as they're just too expensive and complex to fix when they do break down... and they DO break down. They're plagued by cooling issues, and to me - that kills their "reliability" if you're talking best-of-the-best.


Best of all time:
despite the other the #@$%! American car companies were putting out at the time, the chrystler slant 6 was probably one of the best motors of it's day.