Most disturbing US documentary I've seen: OBESITY

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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor

I need to start investing in mail ordered brides from foreign countries
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A Co-worker of mine was vacationing in Europe (won't say where because I don't want to start a war) and he met a lady while he was there.

The relationship developed over the past 2 years and she and him got married. They went through all the steps for her to come to Canada with her son (his step son) and she got her permanent citizenship and within 2 weeks disappeared!

He is heart broken and filing with the courts in Canada to try and have her sent back home because he spent big $$$ to bring her here.

So sad and he was crushed by the experience and he is a changed person in the way he is now.
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: double vanos
Here in Houston most restaurants offer meals so big, they're enough for 2. As Alice Cooper said in one of his songs "please clean your plate dear, the Lord above can see you, don't you know people are starving in Korea....."

This mentality was brought on by parents that remember the depression as kids. Back then you DID clean your plate mostly because there wasn't that much on it.

Nowadays, value is based on quantity or size of the meal, not it's nutritional attributes. I grew up in an Italian household so you can imagine what the meals were like there (huge, mostly pasta).

As Walt Disney once said in a Goofy cartoon about obesity, "to loose weight, simply put your hands on the dinner table and push"; that's part of it but also America needs to demand foods sweetened with natural sugar, cut the salt content WAY back, and whack the amount of saturated fat in the diet. Get some exercise of some sort.

That, and 'ol Walts' advice and America could get back on track.


Like me, you probably grew up in a household that kicked your butt out of the house between meals in the summer to go run around the neighborhood. My parents weren't health-conscious; they just wanted us out of the house for a few hours, and we were all too happy to oblige!

The biggest part, to me at least, is exercise. I'm eating less than I usually do, but since I had surgery last year I haven't been nearly as active as I was previously and it shows. I'd have to cut out all of the tasty things I snack on during the weak and nights out with the gf on the weekends to get back into the shape I was before. OR, I could get off my lazy bum and work out a few days a week and keep enjoying what I enjoy. All it takes is a few months of doing something active before it becomes habit. After a while it'll slowly evolve into a harder to break routine. The hardest part is getting through the first few months, especially after so much time just going through the motions.


Totally agree. IMO, childrens diets are probably better today then they were when I grew up - my mom cooked good healthy dinners usually, but I ate so much corn infused cereals, pizza rolls, ice cream etc. when I was young, I should have been a lard [censored] like todays youth. I was skin and bones. The difference? Pretty much every kid in school along with me was bouncing around the neighborhood riding bikes, playing football, building tree forts, exploring, running around, playing ultimate frisbee etc. etc. etc.! I hardly ever see kids playing today. The park by my house is empty, kids hardly ride their bikes etc. They sit at home on their computers and playstations.

Same with many adults. Time previously used for basic exercise is now occupied in front of electronic gadgets.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
Hi Shannow,

Lemons, and other citrus fruit, are alkalizing due to their high potassium content. If lemon juice is acidifying, it must be due to a lack of potassium. Where did the potassium go when the lemons were squeezed? Please explain!

Cheers,
-J

Originally Posted By: Shannow

Interesting article in New Scientist probably about a decade ago.

Even lemons as a fruit eaten whole alkalised, while juices in general tended to acidify


John, you appear to be well versed on the topic ..and Shannow may be "tied up down under" so to speak. Can you answer the rhetorically presented question so we're not all in knots with the suspense in not knowing?


From what my wife told me, lemon juice is still alkalised IF you drink it like that. That is when you add sugar in it that all its qualities are killed. From what I understood, the added sugar creates a chemical reaction in the juice.

If I can add my 2 canadians cents (in fact, it would probably more my 2 euros cents since it comes from my childhood) to the debate: My wife is still amazed how not fat I am after eating so much. For her, eating like I eat (and what I eat), I should be above 300 lbs easily.
What seems to be one the reason why I am still at about 195 lbs for 6"1, is that I cannot eat my dinner in less than 30 minutes whatever happens (where one of her daughter eats her dinner in 2 minutes top. I am not even sat at the table that she is already done). The fact that I take my time to eat and the fact that I don't care of what I eat (don't care if it is good for my health or not, I just enjoy the food, period), seem to be some of the reasons I am not becoming fat. That is what her naturopath told her when she inquiried about my health to her.
Your body needs about a 20 minutes gap to tell your brain that it got all it needs. If you eat too fast, you overfill yourself while the message is dispatched.
The fact that you are not feeling guilty about what you are eating keeps you away from that "restrict myself - cheating" habit people on diet used to have.

Be happy and eat happy seems to be a good diet (or may be, I am just a lucky [censored]).
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
A Co-worker of mine was vacationing in Europe (won't say where because I don't want to start a war) and he met a lady while he was there.

The relationship developed over the past 2 years and she and him got married. They went through all the steps for her to come to Canada with her son (his step son) and she got her permanent citizenship and within 2 weeks disappeared!

He is heart broken and filing with the courts in Canada to try and have her sent back home because he spent big $$$ to bring her here.

So sad and he was crushed by the experience and he is a changed person in the way he is now.

she disappeared and he knows that she is still living in Canada?
 
She probably didn't completely disappear. The guy probably heard through her friends or got other indications that she's still in the country.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
She probably didn't completely disappear. The guy probably heard through her friends or got other indications that she's still in the country.
Something like that and also he has a P.I. on her tail. I didn't get into it too much because it's not my business and I don't want to pry and the guy is already feeling like $#!@ without rehashing the details.
 
What I find odd in that sorta thing is "why?". I mean, I can see conning someone out of money or whatever, but it would be a whole complicated process just to gain lawful entrance into the Canada or the US ..and do .....what? Start a new life with a new man ..etc..etc? If she was doing it for as some "master plan" in concert with relatives back home, then there would surely be some "husband for hire" person in the Canada or the US to fulfill the legal requirements to gain entry ..for a recurring cut or be on some retainer.

Then again, I have met those who just can't help themselves when it comes to basic natures.
 
My brother, four years younger, and I ate junk and puffed up like blowfish every summer when we were young, but lost the weight when we went back to school in the fall. Reason: There weren't any vending machines dispensing junk food in our schools!

(Well, okay, my high school did have them, but they were very limited, and I didn't have much money to spend.)

Of course our mother could have, y'know, not bought the stuff every summer, but she liked a little nosh on chips herself. One summer she actually bought and installed a padlock on the cabinet in the kitchen and locked the food up. So I figured out how to unscrew the padlock's hasp from the door; we'd have ourselves a feast while she was at work; and then I'd reinstall the hasp before I went to bed. She couldn't figure out how we were spiriting the food out of the locked cabinet. At last she threw up her hands and said, "Go ahead, get fat, you'll burn it off when you get back to school."
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
What I find odd in that sorta thing is "why?". I mean, I can see conning someone out of money or whatever, but it would be a whole complicated process just to gain lawful entrance into the Canada or the US ..and do .....what? Start a new life with a new man ..etc..etc? If she was doing it for as some "master plan" in concert with relatives back home, then there would surely be some "husband for hire" person in the Canada or the US to fulfill the legal requirements to gain entry ..for a recurring cut or be on some retainer.

Then again, I have met those who just can't help themselves when it comes to basic natures.


You have no idea how tough life is outside of the developed world and how big of a competition it is to get in legally (or pseudo legally by fake marriage / conning a mate). Very often women have to fight among themselves to just marry whoever willing to take them even if they are not interested in the men.

My aunt is a "mail order bride" who end up staying with my uncle despite not loving him. She stayed because he is a responsible family man yet couldn't love him because of his bad attitude and age differences. It may sounds like a good deal for both sides at first, but when you look 50 years down the road, it is rarely worth it for either one.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: double vanos
Here in Houston most restaurants offer meals so big, they're enough for 2. As Alice Cooper said in one of his songs "please clean your plate dear, the Lord above can see you, don't you know people are starving in Korea....."

This mentality was brought on by parents that remember the depression as kids. Back then you DID clean your plate mostly because there wasn't that much on it.

Nowadays, value is based on quantity or size of the meal, not it's nutritional attributes. I grew up in an Italian household so you can imagine what the meals were like there (huge, mostly pasta).

As Walt Disney once said in a Goofy cartoon about obesity, "to loose weight, simply put your hands on the dinner table and push"; that's part of it but also America needs to demand foods sweetened with natural sugar, cut the salt content WAY back, and whack the amount of saturated fat in the diet. Get some exercise of some sort.

That, and 'ol Walts' advice and America could get back on track.


Like me, you probably grew up in a household that kicked your butt out of the house between meals in the summer to go run around the neighborhood. My parents weren't health-conscious; they just wanted us out of the house for a few hours, and we were all too happy to oblige!

The biggest part, to me at least, is exercise. I'm eating less than I usually do, but since I had surgery last year I haven't been nearly as active as I was previously and it shows. I'd have to cut out all of the tasty things I snack on during the weak and nights out with the gf on the weekends to get back into the shape I was before. OR, I could get off my lazy bum and work out a few days a week and keep enjoying what I enjoy. All it takes is a few months of doing something active before it becomes habit. After a while it'll slowly evolve into a harder to break routine. The hardest part is getting through the first few months, especially after so much time just going through the motions.


Totally agree. IMO, childrens diets are probably better today then they were when I grew up - my mom cooked good healthy dinners usually, but I ate so much corn infused cereals, pizza rolls, ice cream etc. when I was young, I should have been a lard [censored] like todays youth. I was skin and bones. The difference? Pretty much every kid in school along with me was bouncing around the neighborhood riding bikes, playing football, building tree forts, exploring, running around, playing ultimate frisbee etc. etc. etc.! I hardly ever see kids playing today. The park by my house is empty, kids hardly ride their bikes etc. They sit at home on their computers and playstations.

Same with many adults. Time previously used for basic exercise is now occupied in front of electronic gadgets.



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Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
My brother, four years younger, and I ate junk and puffed up like blowfish every summer when we were young, but lost the weight when we went back to school in the fall. Reason: There weren't any vending machines dispensing junk food in our schools!

(Well, okay, my high school did have them, but they were very limited, and I didn't have much money to spend.)

Of course our mother could have, y'know, not bought the stuff every summer, but she liked a little nosh on chips herself. One summer she actually bought and installed a padlock on the cabinet in the kitchen and locked the food up. So I figured out how to unscrew the padlock's hasp from the door; we'd have ourselves a feast while she was at work; and then I'd reinstall the hasp before I went to bed. She couldn't figure out how we were spiriting the food out of the locked cabinet. At last she threw up her hands and said, "Go ahead, get fat, you'll burn it off when you get back to school."


That's hilarious.
 
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There's too much liability out there for a kid to roam around the neighborhood riding bikes, smashing snails, walking to school, etc.

People driving SUV with cell phones, child predators, drug dealers, urbanization, all makes it easier for parents to baby sit their kids with TV, video games, and junk food.
 
Originally Posted By: John_Corey
Hi Shannow,

Lemons, and other citrus fruit, are alkalizing due to their high potassium content. If lemon juice is acidifying, it must be due to a lack of potassium. Where did the potassium go when the lemons were squeezed? Please explain!

Cheers,
-J
Originally Posted By: Shannow

Interesting article in New Scientist probably about a decade ago.

Even lemons as a fruit eaten whole alkalised, while juices in general tended to acidify


I think this is the article, just New Scientist online is rubbish now to search, and I'm not paying to view.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17223214.900-hard-cheese.html

Article was about acid/alkaline balance, muscle and bone development.

The scientists found that lemons as a fruit alkalised, juice acidified, same with oranges. Soft cheeses alkalised, hard cheeses acidified, and (IIRC, it's a while since I read the mag), white turkey meat acidified, while dark alkalised. Usual suspects in the vege world alkalised.

The speculation with citrus was that the unjuiced portion had the alkalising agents.
 
Originally Posted By: Pesca

From what my wife told me, lemon juice is still alkalised IF you drink it like that. That is when you add sugar in it that all its qualities are killed. From what I understood, the added sugar creates a chemical reaction in the juice.


Check the pH, and the juice is very acid.

Citric acid is one of the major ingredients in Urinary alkaliser for certain women's troubles.

To go from acid in a cup to alkaline on the way out, it needs to pick up minerals on the way through.
 
I work at a childrens hospital the things I see are rather disgusting. Not just the kids but the parents and even the nurses! Shoot we don't even have a company gym and every company I've worked for this big has had one. They don't even have very big exercise facilities for kids. Won't even talk about the cafeteria. Great example aren't they? Kinda like them decreasing our raises but also asking for donations for the new building. I always find older movies interesting (watched The Car today). Everybody skinny and hardly any of them are very muscular. I'm about to stop weight lifting and just focus on running all together.
 
Have you seen the size of wheelchairs in a hospital ?
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They are no longer 'regular' sized. All the wheelchairs are extra large for all the pathetic fat people.
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Have you seen the size of wheelchairs in a hospital ?
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They are no longer 'regular' sized. All the wheelchairs are extra large for all the pathetic fat people.

Do they come with cup-holders for my 7-11 Slurpee?
 
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