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http://www.dailytech.com/Indiana+High+Sc...rticle24322.htm

Main take aways
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the tweet was posted at 2:30 a.m.

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but the school claims it was posted from Garrett High School"

Okay, yeah this is the kind of thing that makes me ticked off.
Why is this even legal, that they can set up software to monitor students social networking accounts? Just how STUPID are these people? And WHY pray tell is this a expellable offense. Even if he DID post it from school, it has nothing to do with the school in any way, shape or form. Thus, not their darn business. And expelled for profanity? Come on now. This isn't the same thing as banning a user on BITOG for swearing. Expelling is a much more serious, life changing thing. And I don't think that using profanity on twitter (or anywhere else for that matter) is something thatshould be allowed to be expelled over.

/rant off
 
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That is garbage.
Honestly even if he swore, it still shouldn't be worth getting expelled, even if it was on school time.
You'd have to do something pretty bad to get kicked out for the remainder of the semester. Using the F-bomb is a detention if you ask me. Nothing more.

People suck, clearly.. This world frightens and saddens me all at the same time.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Even if he DID post it from school, it has nothing to do with the school in any way, shape or form. Thus, not their darn business.


If the post was made from school computer equipment, then it is their business, and the student is subject to the computer user agreements or whatever are in force regulating the use of school computer equipment. If the post was made from school, and if the computer user aggreements prohibit the use of social networking or non-school-related use or whatever, then the student is clearly in the wrong.

Worth getting expelled over? I couldn't comment. Something tells me we don't know all the details here.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Even if he DID post it from school, it has nothing to do with the school in any way, shape or form. Thus, not their darn business.


If the post was made from school computer equipment, then it is their business, and the student is subject to the computer user agreements or whatever are in force regulating the use of school computer equipment. If the post was made from school, and if the computer user aggreements prohibit the use of social networking or non-school-related use or whatever, then the student is clearly in the wrong.

Worth getting expelled over? I couldn't comment. Something tells me we don't know all the details here.



I would agree. if something was done on a school pc and was in violation of their policy, then you are fair game to any repercussions that may arise. as far as the punishment being fair, it sure seems like there is more to this story than we are hearing.
 
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The thing here is he did not post it from the school computers or network. It was posted at 2:30AM, if he was at school at that time, then there are bigger issues than whether or not he swore.
 
Thats ridiculous... Just fyi.. if you are language sensative.. dont read the comments at the bottom.

This article is about a senior in highschool being expelled for tweeting the F-word.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
The thing here is he did not post it from the school computers or network. It was posted at 2:30AM, if he was at school at that time, then there are bigger issues than whether or not he swore.


my feeling is the school did this for a reason and we are not getting all of the facts. schools do not just expel people for no reason.do not see the board of directors allowing somebody to just kick somebody out of school without a just reason. maybe the parents went to the media and did not give all of the details ? the media latches on to the story and here we go. I guess what I mean is the media is quick to jump on a story and maybe we should wait to make a choice until all of the info comes out , if it does.
 
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Originally Posted By: Nick R
The thing here is he did not post it from the school computers or network. It was posted at 2:30AM, if he was at school at that time, then there are bigger issues than whether or not he swore.


I believe he did post it from a school owned computer that was at his house.
 
I think kiddies need to learn that nothing on the web is private and that everything they do there can be used against them. I'm not sure where everybody got the idea that posting on social network sites with your full name, birth date, pictures and a host of other personal information filled in, is somehow shielded from reprocutions. IT ISN'T.

During the time when I went to school, if a teacher heard you swearing or caught you doing something inappropriate in public, even though it was outside of school property or hours, you could get in trouble or get suspended.
How is that any different? Or do we want our spoiled brats do whatever they want?
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ

During the time when I went to school, if a teacher heard you swearing or caught you doing something inappropriate in public, even though it was outside of school property or hours, you could get in trouble or get suspended.
How is that any different? Or do we want our spoiled brats do whatever they want?

We're you at a public school? Or are you 70+ years old? You're experience sounds 1950's. Today I'd hope a teacher would let a student know next time they saw the student during school time, that their behavior doesn't reflect well on them, but that's all they could or should do. And even then a teacher could half expect a call from a parent to the principal complaining about it.

Heck, the kid was tweeting something that shows he's atleast semi-literate. I'd say give him a 1 day suspension.
 
"If my account is on my own personal account, I don't think the school or anybody should be looking at it," said Carroll. "Because it's my own personal stuff and it's none of their business. I didn't post the thing at school but their computer is saying that I did post it, and I shouldn't be getting in trouble for stuff I did on my own time, on my own computer."


He's correct IMHO
 
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"If my account is on my own personal account, I don't think the school or anybody should be looking at it," said Carroll. "Because it's my own personal stuff and it's none of their business. I didn't post the thing at school but their computer is saying that I did post it, and I shouldn't be getting in trouble for stuff I did on my own time, on my own computer."


He's correct IMHO



If the guy doesn't want "school or anybody" his quote, look at what he posts, why is he tweeting anyway on a public site? And according to the article he logged in to tweeter during school hours and that makes it a school business.

I’m not saying that his punishment is fair, but just like in real world we have to watch what we say, this kid and a lot of other people should also learn to watch what they tweet or post under their own name. Why is it such a hard concept to grasp?
 
I don't think this is something to be expelled over. Detention or a call to his parents make more sense.

Unless he has prior troubles and is on serious warning, and this is merely a straw that break the camel's back.

One of the comment found on the link:

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I am on a school board and can answer #3. A principal can do it, but the board is notified of the circumstances and they can suspend the expulsion for further review if they choose to do so. However, none of my principals are dumb enough to choose this type of punishment for foul language. I am going to take a guess that this student might have been on some type of probationary period due to prior stupidity. The idea of expelling a senior in the Spring for naughty words is insane. The legal costs alone will exceed the principal's annual salary.
 
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As I understand it he posted from home but pulled up his own words at school.

I bet the school has a policy against using cell phones (with data plans) on campus. So he's effectively forced to use their computer network (with tracing software) even on his own time, like lunch.

This is the 21st century equivalent of him bringing in a "dangerous book" not carried in the school library. And seriously wrong.
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I think kiddies need to learn that nothing on the web is private and that everything they do there can be used against them. I'm not sure where everybody got the idea that posting on social network sites with your full name, birth date, pictures and a host of other personal information filled in, is somehow shielded from reprocutions. IT ISN'T.

During the time when I went to school, if a teacher heard you swearing or caught you doing something inappropriate in public, even though it was outside of school property or hours, you could get in trouble or get suspended.
How is that any different? Or do we want our spoiled brats do whatever they want?


Same here. We could be suspended for doing anything that brought detriment or shame to the school. This cut down on drinking, cursing, smoking, doing any illegal activities, etc. Imagine that, the nerve to make us grow up with some self-respect!
 
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