Moog parts

I noticed on Rock auto I have a Moog idler arm that is under warranty and its considered economy line . I thought Moog was good brand . This part only has a few thousand miles from my Gmc Typhoon .
I always thought they were a quality brand too and have been buying their parts for years.
 
I have used many Moog parts on Honda And Acura front suspensions. Never had an issue and the parts always had a good feel.
They are probably reboxed Sankei, Ishikawa,THK, or possibly one of the Chinese better quality manufacturers like Ningbo Dongzhou, GSW, etc. This common with Moog for Asian stuff.
 
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I go through those every year in my Ram because of the angle after the lift. The ball joint in them gets warbly really fast.
I never understood why people install lift kits in their pickups. I am sure it creates problems. I seldom am off-road where I need to climb over boulders. I would need to get on my hands a knees to provide my back as a step stool so my wife could get into my pickup.

My pickup I guess being a 4WD is a little high stock. And I am fine with that.
 
They are probably reboxed Sankei, Ishikawa,THK, or possibly one of the Chinese better quality manufacturers like Ningbo Dongzhou, GSW, etc. This common with Moog for Asian stuff.
How does one know? Moog has LCAs for my Mazda 5 at RA (assume economy line) but there is no mention of country of origin. They do get a ❤️ from RA though, if that means anything.
 
How does one know? Moog has LCAs for my Mazda 5 at RA (assume economy line) but there is no mention of country of origin. They do get a ❤️ from RA though, if that means anything.
Zoom on their picture in rockauto and find any serial you can find, then chatgpt it. It finds a lot of stuff
 
It would seem at some point capitalism would come into play and a company would make quality parts for a not-cheap but less than OEM price. I can buy Akebono or Wagner (and others) quality brake pads so why isn't the same true for suspension and steering parts? While no guarantees if you buy on Amazon, companies like NAPA and RockAuto are big enough that I would think they can vette their supply chains and eliminate fake parts.
Akebono, 555, Denso, Aisin, Sachs (maybe).

I don't trust ANY private equity owned brands of anything, run away fast from any of their companies. It is hard to find an American business who resist selling out except if the founder is still in charge and is just running the business on his legacy, like Valve in gaming, and HP before the founders died, and Steve Jobs era Apple (Tim Cook is not too bad but who knows the next CEO).
 
How does one know? Moog has LCAs for my Mazda 5 at RA (assume economy line) but there is no mention of country of origin. They do get a ❤️ from RA though, if that means anything.
Off topic I replace the rear LCA with an adjustable camber one and all of them are from the same brand same design reboxed. Dial that camber to a more normal one (6 1/2 turn from all the way in if I remember right) solved my tire wear issue.
 
Have had pretty mediocre experiences with both Moog and Mevotech on the Forester. Which of the two was better has been hotly debated in the Subaru FB groups but I wouldn't use either again unless I was trying to flip the car and didn't care if the part was making horrible noises in another 10k.
 
I’ve never been anything but impressed with MOOG parts, but maybe I’ve just gotten lucky. I like that their sway bar links (at least the ones I’ve used) have zerk fittings where the stock components do not.
 
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I never understood why people install lift kits in their pickups. I am sure it creates problems. I seldom am off-road where I need to climb over boulders. I would need to get on my hands a knees to provide my back as a step stool so my wife could get into my pickup.

My pickup I guess being a 4WD is a little high stock. And I am fine with that.
4x4's did sit high years ago but now they are grocery getters and sit lower for handling. Taller tires are the only real functional thing you can change for getting over fallen trees and rocks though. I went higher because I like to get out in the hills and drive around from time to time.
 
I never understood why people install lift kits in their pickups. I am sure it creates problems. I seldom am off-road where I need to climb over boulders. I would need to get on my hands a knees to provide my back as a step stool so my wife could get into my pickup.

My pickup I guess being a 4WD is a little high stock. And I am fine with that.
Off-road trucks have an enthusiast base just like anything else. Tons of car owners don’t have a need to run boutique oils either, but here we are discussing the different types of VII and such. It’s the same thing.
 
The Moog problem solver for idler for my truck is the economy line . Im going with ac delco for the pitman arm and let them warranty the Moog idler arm .
The problem solvers have declined significantly. My truck eats up the new PS idler arms. They used to last years. Amazon reviews seem to agree. Tons of complaints
 
4x4's did sit high years ago but now they are grocery getters and sit lower for handling. Taller tires are the only real functional thing you can change for getting over fallen trees and rocks though. I went higher because I like to get out in the hills and drive around from time to time.
New 4x4s are low? The bed sides are ridiculously high on new trucks. Terrible for loading groceries or really anything
 
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I went with Ac delco professional pitman arm and the Moog problem solver idler arm . The idler arm is slotted so I did the adjustments stated on the web site . Lastly everything got grease with Mystic high temp red .
 
I noticed on Rock auto I have a Moog idler arm that is under warranty and its considered economy line . I thought Moog was good brand . This part only has a few thousand miles from my Gmc Typhoon .

I've always had bad luck with moog.
 
All aftermarket brands have gone down hill over the past decade (or two). My father had an auto repair shop since the 80's and Moog was always an easy choice. Usually a little more premium price but they were always good quality. About 15 years ago the quality started to go down hill and by 10 years ago it was just bad. Same for just about all the aftermarket stuff.

These days your best bet for a quality part is to go OEM.
 
I have Moog rear upper control arms on my Forester and so far no complaints although I'm only about 10k in. They felt and looked solid when I installed them though.

They're Trakmotive.

https://assets.genpt.com/pdf/id/166326289

If you call the number of the NAPA Axle Warranty sheet, it takes you to Advanced Innovative Technology Corp....which is the umbrella corp over Trakmotive.

I've been pleasantly surprised by them. About $125 a piece, as opposed to several hundred vs oem and all is well pushing 50K. With Cvts a vibration will be amplified if the CV is junk. This is on an 09 so cost was a factor

Dang, I just ordered front CV Axles for my Forester and almost went with Trakmotive from RA but chickened out and went with the Subaru parts.
 
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