Mobil oil no longer authorized for BMW?

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: OldEuroCarLover
It's been that way for at least a year, I think. None of the Mobil oils carry BMW certifications anymore, as far as I know.


Mobil 1 ESP 5w-30 PDS
BMW LL-04

Mobil 1 ESP 0w-40
BMW LL-04

This one doesn't show on the site yet, but it is a ROW product and the PDS has been on the US site for several months now.


On the first page of this thread I said check out the M1 site and the info you gave is there. Most here are not willing to check the site for themselves. However, thanks for your info.

 

[OldEuroCarLover]

I should have said that Mobil oils are not approved for any BMWs outside of Europe. LL-04 is strictly for BMWs in Europe. This is supposedly due to the sulfur and ethanol content of gasoline in the US / outside of Europe.

 

[jongies3]

Didn't M1 also lose approvals from Dodge/Chrysler vehicles as well? I thought I saw that floating around the internet a few weeks back.

 

[4WD]

No, Fiat.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: OldEuroCarLover
I should have said that Mobil oils are not approved for any BMWs outside of Europe. LL-04 is strictly for BMWs in Europe. This is supposedly due to the sulfur and ethanol content of gasoline in the US / outside of Europe.

Nope, BMW LL-04 are also for the U.S. and Canada but for diesel engines.
You can get M1 5W30 ESP with LL-04 (I have stocked up that oil) and bunch of other ils that meet that spec. including Valvoline 5W40 MST that I currently have in engine.

 

[OldEuroCarLover]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: OldEuroCarLover
I should have said that Mobil oils are not approved for any BMWs outside of Europe. LL-04 is strictly for BMWs in Europe. This is supposedly due to the sulfur and ethanol content of gasoline in the US / outside of Europe.

Nope, BMW LL-04 are also for the U.S. and Canada but for diesel engines.
You can get M1 5W30 ESP with LL-04 (I have stocked up that oil) and bunch of other ils that meet that spec. including Valvoline 5W40 MST that I currently have in engine.


That's not really a "nope" as much as it's a note that it's okay for diesel and not gasoline models. Gasoline and diesel BMWs are two totally different animals.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/BMW-Oil-Specs-and-Recs.pdf

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
If you recall we were still getting in Canada the old PAO based SM 0W-40 up until about a year ago; long after Mobil had switched to the heavier SN oil. We're not getting the latest FS version of M1 0W-40 yet, so if past experience is anything to go by, the current LL-01 labelled oil should be available for a long time.

I'd probably use either, no matter what the certs said, at least outside of warranty. I haven't checked the shelves lately to see which version is available here. If they want in never to run out, Walmart and CT can just keep it at full price.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: OldEuroCarLover
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: OldEuroCarLover
I should have said that Mobil oils are not approved for any BMWs outside of Europe. LL-04 is strictly for BMWs in Europe. This is supposedly due to the sulfur and ethanol content of gasoline in the US / outside of Europe.

Nope, BMW LL-04 are also for the U.S. and Canada but for diesel engines.
You can get M1 5W30 ESP with LL-04 (I have stocked up that oil) and bunch of other ils that meet that spec. including Valvoline 5W40 MST that I currently have in engine.


That's not really a "nope" as much as it's a note that it's okay for diesel and not gasoline models. Gasoline and diesel BMWs are two totally different animals.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/BMW-Oil-Specs-and-Recs.pdf

OK, I misunderstood your post.
Well, the U.S. is moving to ultra low sulfur gasoline on 01/01/2017.
We will see whether car companies will switch to Lower SAPS oils due to ethanol, but I do not see ethanol as issue as sulfur.