Mobil 1 filter vs Royal Purple, any difference?

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: RafRol

In the end, I purchased the Mobil 1 filter because it was bundled with 5 quarts of Mobil 1 oil at PepBoys for $29.99. They had the same promotion with RP but at $49.99.


Wow ... a $20 difference. How do they come up with that calculation when the price difference between the Mobil 1 and RP filter is probably a few dollars? Or was the oil also Royal Purple?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: SuperBusa
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
It looks like the discontinued Delco Ultraguard.
Yes it does, also the Toyota TRD except it has a nut on dome like the K&N.


+1 ... the Royal Purple, ACDelco Ultraguard and Toyota TRD are basically the same design/construction, and a level above the K&N and Mobil 1 filters IMO.


And they all resemble the Donaldson Synteq filters

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: SuperBusa
Originally Posted By: RafRol

In the end, I purchased the Mobil 1 filter because it was bundled with 5 quarts of Mobil 1 oil at PepBoys for $29.99. They had the same promotion with RP but at $49.99.


Wow ... a $20 difference. How do they come up with that calculation when the price difference between the Mobil 1 and RP filter is probably a few dollars? Or was the oil also Royal Purple?

Oil was the price difference as he was talking about an RP oil & RP filter combo vs a Mobil 1 deal.

 

[D Bone]

$29.99 vs $49.99? Better oil, with a better filter = more money.

 

[Oregoonian]

Originally Posted By: RafRol
I'm planning on using Mobil 1 with a 10K OCI.
Originally Posted By: RafRol
PepBoys have a deal where you can get 5 individual quarts of Mobil 1 with the Mobil 1 filter for $29.99. Looks like a good deal to me, especially since that's the oil I'm planning on using (0W-30).

Good choice...can't go wrong with Mobil 1 products.
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[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
And they all resemble the Donaldson Synteq filters


The Champion design, used first in the Delco Ultraguard and now the Royal Purple, predates the Donaldson, the Fleetguard Stratapore, and the Amsoil by a few years.

The filter media is bought from outside suppliers, so in theory other makers could develop similar filters, and both "Hard Driver" (gone a few years) and Fram at various times used the same or similar media.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
And they all resemble the Donaldson Synteq filters


The Champion design, used first in the Delco Ultraguard and now the Royal Purple, predates the Donaldson, the Fleetguard Stratapore, and the Amsoil by a few years.

The filter media is bought from outside suppliers, so in theory other makers could develop similar filters, and both "Hard Driver" (gone a few years) and Fram at various times used the same or similar media.




Really? Donaldson introduced SYNTEQ in 1985...... You are saying Champ used glass media before that?

 

[postjeeprcr]

Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
The post above pretty much nailed it. The M1 is a little closer to the K&N than the RP although still a very good filter. Here is an RP cut away to compare to the M1 and K&N above...

It looks like the discontinued Delco Ultraguard.

They were made by Champion, the folks who make the Mobil 1 and K&N filters, but used a mesh-backed synthetic media.

I have one left out of a case I bought some years ago.




No all AC Delco Ultraguards were discontinued

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Really? Donaldson introduced SYNTEQ in 1985...... You are saying Champ used glass media before that?


I purchased Ultraguards for passenger cars in 1984.

Prior to that I encountered glass media in heavy duty applications, among them filters made by Champion Labs.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr

No all AC Delco Ultraguards were discontinued

Incorrect,the UPF52 is still very much available i know that for a fact,and i also believe so is the UPF44 but not 100% on that one.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Really? Donaldson introduced SYNTEQ in 1985...... You are saying Champ used glass media before that?


I purchased Ultraguards for passenger cars in 1984.

Prior to that I encountered glass media in heavy duty applications, among them filters made by Champion Labs.






Interesting! Do you have any more data on this? I know Donaldson's process dates back to the 70's (as per their website) but it would be interesting to know others who have used the same or similar process in the industry.

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Do you have any more data on this? I know Donaldson's process dates back to the 70's (as per their website) but it would be interesting to know others who have used the same or similar process in the industry.


What would be helpful would be to have contact with one of the filter media companies.

As with additives, there are large manufacturers both in the US of A and overseas who make a wide variety of filter media, along with other products like wipes, diaper media, and so on.

Donaldson is a filter media manufacturer:

http://www.donaldson.com/en/filtermedia/index.html

but there are outfits who make just the media for other manufacturers to utilize, or who offer media which they use in their own products to other manufacturers.


http://www.nfm-filter.com/index.html

http://gmtinc.rtrk.com/?scid=1090902&rl_alt=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.gmt-inc.com&rl_path=/products%2Fcategory%2Ffiltration-products%2F

You can buy filter media made from polypropylene, polyester, micro fiberglass, activated carbon, wound carbon, ceramic nano-fibers, cellulose, various metals, in rolls, pleated, you name it.

Fiberglass filtration certainly has been around for 50 years or more. I believe early applications involved high temperature fluids.

 

[OVERKILL]

One of the Donaldson media processes involves a nano-fiber made from nylon. I believe it is for air filtration. And yes, I believe Donaldson's position is somewhat unique in the fact that they do both media AND filtration assemblies.

I was reading the history on some of this stuff the other night, and it is amazing how long some of it has been around for!