Normally I use PP 5W20 synthetic and run in the V6 '07 Kia Sedona for 6,500 to 7,500 miles run mostly in suburb driving conditions . Yesterday I saw Mobil 1 Extended Performance on rollback at WM so I decided to try it in 5W30 (all they had) with a Fram Ultra oil filter . Both the extended performance and Fram oil filter claim : "Good for up to 15,000 miles" which I assume is best case on easy interstate driving . So my plan for the Kia driven in the suburbs is to run the extended performance for about 9 months / 13,000 miles (which ever comes first) ... Your thoughts on this proposed OCI with the Fram Ultra and Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic oil ?
Mobil 1 Extended Performance OCI ?
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Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Your thoughts on this proposed OCI with the Fram Ultra and Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic oil ?
I would never do it if the engine has a VVT system.
Your thoughts on this proposed OCI with the Fram Ultra and Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic oil ?
I would never do it if the engine has a VVT system.
Originally Posted By: Pontual
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
Your questions are answered in the Mobil 1 EP warranty.
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Normally I use PP 5W20 synthetic and run in the V6 '07 Kia Sedona for 6,500 to 7,500 miles run mostly in suburb driving conditions . Yesterday I saw Mobil 1 Extended Performance on rollback at WM so I decided to try it in 5W30 (all they had) with a Fram Ultra oil filter . Both the extended performance and Fram oil filter claim : "Good for up to 15,000 miles" which I assume is best case on easy interstate driving . So my plan for the Kia driven in the suburbs is to run the extended performance for about 9 months / 13,000 miles (which ever comes first) ... Your thoughts on this proposed OCI with the Fram Ultra and Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic oil ?
Your engine is probably very clean inside using the PP. If you live in the burbs and do enough driving (not a lot of short trips), I think you should go for it.
The Kia isn't under warranty and I'm sure your engine won't self destruct using Mobil 1 EP. On my wife's 97 civic, I've left the OCI for one year before using regular Mobil 1 (less than 6,000 miles for the 12 months). There were a lot of short trips and the engine was fine. I've never done a UOA, but the engine is spotless inside.
Did you buy an extra quart or two of the Mobil EP, for top ups if needed?
Normally I use PP 5W20 synthetic and run in the V6 '07 Kia Sedona for 6,500 to 7,500 miles run mostly in suburb driving conditions . Yesterday I saw Mobil 1 Extended Performance on rollback at WM so I decided to try it in 5W30 (all they had) with a Fram Ultra oil filter . Both the extended performance and Fram oil filter claim : "Good for up to 15,000 miles" which I assume is best case on easy interstate driving . So my plan for the Kia driven in the suburbs is to run the extended performance for about 9 months / 13,000 miles (which ever comes first) ... Your thoughts on this proposed OCI with the Fram Ultra and Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic oil ?
Your engine is probably very clean inside using the PP. If you live in the burbs and do enough driving (not a lot of short trips), I think you should go for it.
The Kia isn't under warranty and I'm sure your engine won't self destruct using Mobil 1 EP. On my wife's 97 civic, I've left the OCI for one year before using regular Mobil 1 (less than 6,000 miles for the 12 months). There were a lot of short trips and the engine was fine. I've never done a UOA, but the engine is spotless inside.
Did you buy an extra quart or two of the Mobil EP, for top ups if needed?
I had the opposite problem, Polaris said that 10K (on 5W30 EP) in the xB in my sig was getting close to the limit-TBN of only 2, 100C viscosity of 9.5.
Going from 7,000 miles to 13,000 is quite a jump. I would say that's a little extreme. I would try 7 months/10,000 miles and a UOA before doubling the OCI.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Pontual
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
So basically Mobil says you go 15K or 1 year & they'll back you up, regardless of driving conditions? I just skimmed through quickly.
Originally Posted By: Pontual
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
So basically Mobil says you go 15K or 1 year & they'll back you up, regardless of driving conditions? I just skimmed through quickly.
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Pontual
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
So basically Mobil says you go 15K or 1 year & they'll back you up, regardless of driving conditions? I just skimmed through quickly.
No.
Originally Posted By: XOM
Follow your owner’s manual if the vehicle is operated in any of the following severe services: racing or commercial applications including taxis, limousines, etc.; frequent towing or hauling; extremely dusty or dirty conditions; or under excessive idling conditions.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Pontual
Problem with "Good for Up To", is that it isnt Garanteed...
Or one year:
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/warranties/limited-warranty/mobil-1-ep-oil-warranty
So basically Mobil says you go 15K or 1 year & they'll back you up, regardless of driving conditions? I just skimmed through quickly.
No.
Originally Posted By: XOM
Follow your owner’s manual if the vehicle is operated in any of the following severe services: racing or commercial applications including taxis, limousines, etc.; frequent towing or hauling; extremely dusty or dirty conditions; or under excessive idling conditions.
I have used it in my almost 13 year old Saturn for the past three years. I change it once a year and put about 7000 miles if all season city driving on it. I still use no oil between changes, the interior of the engine viewed through the oil filler cap is immaculate and everything else is just fine. So use it and sleep well.
I've used M1 EP many times in the Honda Accord V6 and the KIA Sportage, and I've never gone beyond 10,000 miles because the oil gets so dark that I'm paranoid it's too dirty to be doing any good.
I use Mobil 1 EP exclusively in all my vehicles. With the low Walmart price and my "oil is cheaper than an engine" mentality I run the OCI's between 6-7k miles. I am sure I could probably go out to 10K and be just fine but one vehicle is a 3.6DI Cadillac CTS and the timing chain issues with that engine doesn't lend itself to really long extended drains. Another vehicle sees frequent towing, another vehicle is the Corvette that I just want fresh oil in it all the time. The grand Cherokee Overland is brand new and I'm still not comfortable with the whole 5w/20 thing so I doubt I will ever go more with it. I also just don't like dirt and combustion by products running thru my engine that long.
I run 5w30EP in my Ford Transit until the OLM says it needs changed. That seems to be somewhere beyond 10k. On my Jeep, however, I run 5w30EP for only 6k, because the warranty and OLM require it. Otherwise, I'd probably go 10k in it, too.
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. For instance, Amsoil loves doing the same thing.. a stack of miles or one year. But way on down the page, they mention that severe service, the time frame should be greatly reduced or OEM recommended drain interval. And some vehicles, anything outside of nice comfortable normal road driving qualifies as severe service. My pickup, just by leaving my driveway I fall into the severe service category because I have to cover a couple of miles of gravel road to get to the highway. Dusty conditions qualifies as severe service to the OEM, and that, by extension, would be picked up by the oil company making these extreme interval marketing claims.
Caveat Emptor.
Caveat Emptor.
A friend had a 2003 Ford Windstar and did 15K OCIs with M1 5-30 EP and did just as the oil jug said. He changed every 15K, put nearly 200K on the engine when sold. Engine ran great, stayed very clean, never added between changes. He now has a 20010 Dodge van, and is doing the same thing. No problems.
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Originally Posted By: CrackyWainwright
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Or any other oil company. But M1 EP is a great product, as are all the M1 oils. I do 10K OCIs and have no doubt I could go longer without a problem.
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Or any other oil company. But M1 EP is a great product, as are all the M1 oils. I do 10K OCIs and have no doubt I could go longer without a problem.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: CrackyWainwright
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Or any other oil company. But M1 EP is a great product, as are all the M1 oils. I do 10K OCIs and have no doubt I could go longer without a problem.
So why do you run AFE instead of EP when the cost is about the same and you do 10K OCI's?
Originally Posted By: CrackyWainwright
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Problem with these kinds of marketing things, is that they usually have little fine print somewhere that would exempt them. . . . Caveat Emptor.
^^ This exactly. Mobil 1 is good oil, but I doubt a big corporation like that has EVER paid out a single claim. There are just too many exclusions and they have too many lawyers.
Or any other oil company. But M1 EP is a great product, as are all the M1 oils. I do 10K OCIs and have no doubt I could go longer without a problem.
So why do you run AFE instead of EP when the cost is about the same and you do 10K OCI's?
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