Alot of people seem to be very happy with Mobil 1 ESP over the usual Mobil 1 0w40 Euro, Castrol 5w40 Euro, etc. I know its a 504/507 Spec oil that is technically backwards compatible with 502, but my question is, is there any reason to not run it? Engines in question are all EA888 Gen 3 engines spec'd for 502. I suppose my biggest concern would be sheer, Ive always opted for a 40w oil for added sheer protection in case it sheers to a 30w, but after seeing a few people suggest ESP for track use, I'm unsure. Thanks!
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 for 502.00 Spec
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In EA888 absolutely use ESP 5W30.
on track? I would go definitely W40 and not any W40.
This specifically isn't a track application, I've just seen it suggested. This car is tuned making around 80 HP above factory and does see some spirited driving, but no track
There are no downsides AFAIK to running a 504/507 oil over a 502/505 oil besides the lower starting TBN.
Viscosity between approved oils are within spitting distance of each other.
Viscosity between approved oils are within spitting distance of each other.
I'm running the last batch of Valvoline MST 5w-40 in my 2.8l Duramax now. I use it for towing a 4,200lb travel trailer. I was adamant about using a 5w-40 but have a bunch of ESP 5w-30 I'll be using. ESP 5W-30 hths is > 3.5 and it's viscosity although not quite as this as a 40, it's still considered one of the thicker 5w-30's. Any other 5w-30, I'd say no to, but ESP is better stuff in my opinion. Run with confidence.
ESP is preferable in EA888 now with ULSG. But, if it is going to make you sleep better, go VW511.00 which is W40 version of VW504.00/507.00.
Pardon my brain not working, what is ULSG
Ultra Low Sulfur Gasoline
Have not looked for this (vw 511.00). What's the word on availability in the US market?
Motul X-Clean 5W40 GEN2
Mobil1 ESP 0W40 X3.
Gets interesting for the M1 ESP 0W40. From what I can gather, the M1 ESP 0w40 for the Euro market is labeled X3 and is VW 5.11 and has other Euro car approvals. Then there is M1 ESP 0w40 (not labeled X3), and appears to only have Dexos2 approval? This appears to be a North America offering.
Mobil 1 ESP Formula Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40
I think X3 is also making its way here too.
But regardless, I would go Motul.
Ran both former M1 ESP Formula 5W-30 and current M1 ESP 5W-30 too on several 2.0T,
even on track a couple of times without a single issue. No tuning though. Very most VW
504 00 are on the upper end of SAE30 (~12 cSt) anyway and HTHS is between 3,5 and 3,7
mPas.
I agree VW 511 00 is a worthwhile alternative. If you haven't stumbled across my posts on
another thread:
even on track a couple of times without a single issue. No tuning though. Very most VW
504 00 are on the upper end of SAE30 (~12 cSt) anyway and HTHS is between 3,5 and 3,7
mPas.
I agree VW 511 00 is a worthwhile alternative. If you haven't stumbled across my posts on
another thread:
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IMO if oil temperature is below 250f, W30 on track is ok. But above that I would always go thicker due to oil pressure.
Not sure since that has been some time ago, but I'm certain I never reached 250°F. On the Mk7.5 oil temp never exceeded 233°F. Above 240-250°F I'd likely go 5W-40 and preferably VW 511 00 too.
To round things up, let's provide the same for VW 502 00, 505 00, 504 00 and 507 00 as well.
VW 502 00 along with 505 00:
VW 504 00 along with 507 00:
Again, these links automatically direct to the latest list.
To round things up, let's provide the same for VW 502 00, 505 00, 504 00 and 507 00 as well.
VW 502 00 along with 505 00:
VW 504 00 along with 507 00:
Again, these links automatically direct to the latest list.
Depends where the track is. Generally, 4cyl engines are very easy to cool off.
Come here in Colorado on track I go, and I have never seen VW GTI or R without an upgraded radiator and some kind of oil cooler. Altitude is the most difficult to deal with when it comes to cooling.
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