Mobil 1 ESP 5w-30 (SP) VOA

[UNC063]

No idea. Because the metallic additives are so low, moly gone and oxidation value around 10, people naturally assume it's worse. I don't believe that.

Think it's better than the previous oil

 

[svenson]

I have to be honest, other than BMW LL04 applications I’d use ESP X3/X4 0W-40 instead of this every time.

why do you say this? it has porsche c40 approval ,so it suits a bmw ll04 approval and correct me if i am wrong but any oil that has MB-Approval 229.52 and not a llo4 can be used by a bmw ?

p.s. i just saw you had already answered this positive in the 0-30 valvoline thread

 

[chris719]

why do you say this? it has porsche c40 approval ,so it suits a bmw ll04 approval and correct me if i am wrong but any oil that has MB-Approval 229.52 and not a llo4 can be used by a bmw ?

p.s. i just saw you had already answered this positive in the 0-30 valvoline thread

I just mean if you care about officially having the approval, not just a recommendation.

 

[smuthy]

appart from the excellent noack ,what is the conclusion? is it better than the sn api or worst?

mmm I think worst.... No Molly, no Esther, less PAO and Maybe no GTL

 

[kschachn]

mmm I think worst.... No Molly, no Esther, less PAO and Maybe no GTL

Definitely don’t want any Esther.

Does she know Molly?

 

[buster]

appart from the excellent noack ,what is the conclusion? is it better than the sn api or worst?

Anyone's guess. From some of the articles posted over the last few years, you can see that some oil formulators are resorting to non-traditional additives that are just not going to impress via a VOA. They're not detectable.

 

[Patman]

I will have to check the date codes on the two jugs of ESP 5w30 that I have, once I get back to my condo this afternoon. It would be nice if at least one of them was the old ester formula

 

[Patman]

So I checked the date codes on the two jugs of ESP 5w30 that I have, one is 11023G15A and the other is 11024K26A. Perhaps the first one was made earlier enough that it was still the formula that used esters? The second one must be the newer formula without esters. Does that sound about right?

Interestingly the oil I have in the Corvette right now has a date code of 11018C31A so that’s 7 year old ESP Formula 5w30.

 

[Brian123]

So I checked the date codes on the two jugs of ESP 5w30 that I have, one is 11023G15A and the other is 11024K26A. Perhaps the first one was made earlier enough that it was still the formula that used esters? The second one must be the newer formula without esters. Does that sound about right?

Interestingly the oil I have in the Corvette right now has a date code of 11018C31A so that’s 7 year old ESP Formula 5w30.

11023G15, so 110 is the Plant where it was made, 23 is the Year, G is the month and 15 is the day. So, July 15, 2023
According to Buster, Mobil did not change the formula until the end of 2023

11024K26A, that would be November 26 2024

 

[mobilnissan1991]

Ive been told on here to use ESP 0W30, that its a great oil. I couldnt find it at WalMart, only ESP 5W30, so I bought some. Is it comparable to Castrol Euro 5W30, and is it long drain capable?

 

[svenson]

Ive been told on here to use ESP 0W30, that its a great oil. I couldnt find it at WalMart, only ESP 5W30, so I bought some. Is it comparable to Castrol Euro 5W30, and is it long drain capable?

castrol 5-30 LL is a good oil,the rest are mediocre oils

castrol 0-30 a3/b4 according to experts here is one of the most stout oils. has more PAO,when esp 0-30 has more ESTERS.

esp 5-30 is a good oil. yes it is long drained its a longlife oil LL-04.but its suggested to make 5000miles OCI

 

[svenson]

it seems that esp 5-30 lost the vw-Porsche approvals. whats more strange its that in UK site has 3 approvals, MB,BMW and OV, in US site only MB,BMW but its not SQ api listed unlike UK one.

UK site

https://www.mobil.co.uk/en-gb/engine-oil/mobil-1/car/mobil-1-esp-5w-30

US site

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-esp-5w-30