Mobil 1 ESP 0w20 vs liqui moly toptec6200 0w20 vw508/509
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BrendanC
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either will be fine.
Sub in 1 litre of Mobil 1 ESP 5W30.
If ones gonna bother doing that they should sub in a sumps worth of esp 0/5W-30 instead which is what i'd do.
2020 q5 2.0t djya engine code first or second year using 0w20
They both have the VW approval.
And you don't require it, but that's another subject.
My Vee Dub Jedi turd bowl didn't like that at all. Just need a little HTHS pad - not a ton.
Like saying, Yeah, bruh, I liken me sum thick gurls.
Bruh sayz "How 'bout DIS sista"?
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Wacha playn me like Dat!?
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wemay
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Either one will work to VW standards for that approval. Go with the one that's cheaper, you have easiest access to, or you're a fanboy of.
Both will work fine since they are VW 508.00 approved. I'm using M1 ESP 0w-20 because it was on sale at one of the auto parts stores a while back. I would use the Mobil 1 in the future because it's easy to purchase at Walmart in 5-quart containers at a good price.
Agree
Because it gives more overhead/HTHS than 0W-20. ESP 0/5W-30 also carries VW 507.00 approval.
I just changed the oil in my GLI that specs 508.00 and used ESP 0W-30 as I have before...in my case more for the extra "overhead" for fuel dilution in the winter as a short tripper. HTHS is a bonus.
I agree. I think I would move to a 504/507 or 511 once the warranty was up. Surely 508 was specced for emissions and fuel economy.
508 is not reverse compatible with any other older vw spec and they say to add maximum a quart of older spec oil if it is an emergency.
They have this “budack cycle” engine that only works on 508, the intake valves close early in the intake stroke, so the piston keeps moving down but no more air is coming in.
Does someone have real world figures on how much of an extended drain interval for these 508 oils? Many Audi owners complain about losing a quart every six or seven thousand miles, which strikes me as this oil not being as good for the 10k drain cycle that VAG specifies.
Sorry, old thread but very few existing 508 threads.
None of that is correct. The reason 508 00 oil is not backwards compatible is that the lower HT/HS can damage engines which specify an approval such as 504 00 with a higher HT/HS. There is zero reason you cannot use 504 00 in these engines. I do.
And it has nothing to do with it being a Budack cycle engine. The engine works on many other approvals. Other countries have the same engine and list other approvals as acceptable.
You have an active imagination.
Oh, that's all the wisdom found on various Audi fora. If a 504 00 oil works well on that engine, that's entirely fine by me. Not at all a fan of even a beefed up 0w20.
More to the point - 508 00 is causing Audis to lose oil - which Audi recommends just topping up and moving on. And then there are gripes about slightly higher mileage Audis getting timing chain slackening, dirty pistons and all the rest.
What, in your / other BITOGer experience, is the usable OCI for a 508 00 oil? For a car that is under warranty, it becomes tough to use other spec oils, if only because the 508 00 oils come with a characteristic green dye. OK once the oil is sooted up there will be little to distinguish it from a 504 but still .. don't quite want a warranty claim denied, any more than I want my car to prematurely wear its engine out with an issue that can be remedied by a more frequent than the recommended 10K mile / 1 year OCI.
Nothing will get "damamged" by running a different oil. The ea888 gen 3 in the gti was specced with a 502 00 up until 2019 when they changed over to 508 00 (I know this because I had a gti rabbit edition and was confused by the 508 sticker in the engine bay). Absolutely nothing changed with the engine and it was verified to be for fuel economy, but it won't "damage" an engine that was previously specced for a 502 00.
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