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I think on another thread we determined that Walmart jumped the gun a bit on this, they may simply not have had time to get the information properly prepared and disseminated yet. IIRC the release date was supposed to be mid March.
While I agree that it would be nice to have some more definitive information beyond the Good/Better/Best marketing, I can’t say I am particularly surprised you didn’t get it.
While I agree that it would be nice to have some more definitive information beyond the Good/Better/Best marketing, I can’t say I am particularly surprised you didn’t get it.
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
While I agree that it would be nice to have some more definitive information beyond the Good/Better/Best marketing, I can’t say I am particularly surprised you didn’t get it.
That's ok. I won't have trouble sleeping tonight.
While I agree that it would be nice to have some more definitive information beyond the Good/Better/Best marketing, I can’t say I am particularly surprised you didn’t get it.
That's ok. I won't have trouble sleeping tonight.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
When an oil company says their base oil is "proprietary" information it just means they're embarrassed to tell the truth. I'm 99.9 3/4% sure it's a grp III like all the rest of their oils. Nothing wrong with grp III as I use faux synth myself
Redline,Royal Purple,Valvoline,and Pennzoil will tell you straight up what their base oils are,and that really shows how honest and good their integrity is.
No, it means that they know people will make a decision on something based other than performance. Something irrelevant.
When an oil company says their base oil is "proprietary" information it just means they're embarrassed to tell the truth. I'm 99.9 3/4% sure it's a grp III like all the rest of their oils. Nothing wrong with grp III as I use faux synth myself
Redline,Royal Purple,Valvoline,and Pennzoil will tell you straight up what their base oils are,and that really shows how honest and good their integrity is.No, it means that they know people will make a decision on something based other than performance. Something irrelevant.
Originally Posted By: CT8
Seems like if a company wants me to buy their product at twice the price of others on the shelf they would be happy to tell me all the fancy stuff in their product. I guess they know the consumers are mostly idiots.
Maybe. Does this include those that would make a purchase decision based on the base stock rather than the demonstrated performance?
Seems like if a company wants me to buy their product at twice the price of others on the shelf they would be happy to tell me all the fancy stuff in their product. I guess they know the consumers are mostly idiots.
Maybe. Does this include those that would make a purchase decision based on the base stock rather than the demonstrated performance?
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Can we gamble on this site ? you would be easy money if you think it's all GIII ...
Originally Posted By: salcuta88
I called M1 today to ask about the AP oil. Specifically, I wanted to know what group it classifies under, 3, 4, 5?
The rep claimed that they have no authorization to disclose that information. She stated that the oil was tested for about a year and that it is worth the price....
I couldn't get much out of her as she seemed uninterested in discussing much about it.
Poor customer service from their part. A shame!
Manufactures never disclose what's in their oil and, as a result, people never know. This is typical and there is no surprise here.
If Mobil 1 says the new Annual Protection (AP) is a longer-lasting synthetic, it is a longer-lasting synthetic, and that's the main takeaway. This oil will especially benefit those who want extended OCIs for the grades available (0W-20, 5W-20, and 5W-30).
I called M1 today to ask about the AP oil. Specifically, I wanted to know what group it classifies under, 3, 4, 5?
The rep claimed that they have no authorization to disclose that information. She stated that the oil was tested for about a year and that it is worth the price....
I couldn't get much out of her as she seemed uninterested in discussing much about it.
Poor customer service from their part. A shame!
Manufactures never disclose what's in their oil and, as a result, people never know. This is typical and there is no surprise here.
If Mobil 1 says the new Annual Protection (AP) is a longer-lasting synthetic, it is a longer-lasting synthetic, and that's the main takeaway. This oil will especially benefit those who want extended OCIs for the grades available (0W-20, 5W-20, and 5W-30).
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
When an oil company says their base oil is "proprietary" information it just means they're embarrassed to tell the truth. I'm 99.9 3/4% sure it's a grp III like all the rest of their oils. Nothing wrong with grp III as I use faux synth myself Redline,Royal Purple,Valvoline,and Pennzoil will tell you straight up what their base oils are,and that really shows how honest and good their integrity is.
No, it means that they know people will make a decision on something based other than performance. Something irrelevant.
BUT,enthusiasts who build high end hot rods or who drive high end sports cars would be more inclined to spend $50 on a pao or ester oil,rather than a "mystery" oil or grp III oil when they can spend under $20 for a good grp III oil (think Redline and Amsoil customers). I know Mobil isn't "targeting" that demographic,but they have it at that price point.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
When an oil company says their base oil is "proprietary" information it just means they're embarrassed to tell the truth. I'm 99.9 3/4% sure it's a grp III like all the rest of their oils. Nothing wrong with grp III as I use faux synth myself
Redline,Royal Purple,Valvoline,and Pennzoil will tell you straight up what their base oils are,and that really shows how honest and good their integrity is.No, it means that they know people will make a decision on something based other than performance. Something irrelevant.
BUT,enthusiasts who build high end hot rods or who drive high end sports cars would be more inclined to spend $50 on a pao or ester oil,rather than a "mystery" oil or grp III oil when they can spend under $20 for a good grp III oil (think Redline and Amsoil customers). I know Mobil isn't "targeting" that demographic,but they have it at that price point.
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XOM makes 5 groups but GIII is only one they are not selling ... sounds like they are a bit lean ...
Don't think they would launch a 20k flagship all GIII ... a company known to use 3 base stocks in M1 ...
Don't think they would launch a 20k flagship all GIII ... a company known to use 3 base stocks in M1 ...
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I would not be surprised they started to trickle down GTL from 0W40.
Whatever, not worth the money.
Whatever, not worth the money.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
BUT,enthusiasts who build high end hot rods or who drive high end sports cars would be more inclined to spend $50 on a pao or ester oil,rather than a "mystery" oil or grp III oil when they can spend under $20 for a good grp III oil (think Redline and Amsoil customers). I know Mobil isn't "targeting" that demographic,but they have it at that price point.
If I was driving that "high end sports car" and it required an oil with a certain specification, I'd be very sure the oil I purchased actually carries that specification. I might have a hard time finding such an oil among the ones you list.
BUT,enthusiasts who build high end hot rods or who drive high end sports cars would be more inclined to spend $50 on a pao or ester oil,rather than a "mystery" oil or grp III oil when they can spend under $20 for a good grp III oil (think Redline and Amsoil customers). I know Mobil isn't "targeting" that demographic,but they have it at that price point.
If I was driving that "high end sports car" and it required an oil with a certain specification, I'd be very sure the oil I purchased actually carries that specification. I might have a hard time finding such an oil among the ones you list.
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And they probably spec a 40 or 50 grade ...
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And they probably spec a 40 or 50 grade ...
Which is another misguided focus so many times. For many specifications the grade is irrelevant as long as it carries the spec.
And they probably spec a 40 or 50 grade ...
Which is another misguided focus so many times. For many specifications the grade is irrelevant as long as it carries the spec.
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