mixing lubricants

[CCI]

What do you suppose the result would be from mixing LubriPlate white grease with aluminum anti-seize?

 

[CT8]

Why would you ask?

 

[John_K]

Something that moves and sticks at the same time?

 

[kschachn]

In general anti seize is a poor lubricant, that is not its purpose. If it "moves and sticks" at the same time then you need a lubricant.

 

[CCI]

Pivot pins on ignition advance weights. There are specialty lubricants for this, but one container would last me and the next three generations who would inherit this machine with half a container left over. I can't see buying it if I don't need to.

The fretting and galling tends to destroy the advance weight unit fairly quickly. Over 40 years I have not seen grease of any kind hold up particularly well to the temperature of an air-cooled and oil-cooled engine (antique Harley), I've never measured it, but it gets hot, I imagine 250 degrees F or more. Regular old NGLI #2 Lithium grease goes away quickly, that's established. Silicone (ignition cam) grease is gone even sooner. Anti-seize by itself seems to work for a little while, but not great.

The mating parts never see real rotation, just a pivoting through a few degrees upon acceleration and deceleration, but the do tend to beat themselves apart.

 

[Rick505]

Originally Posted by CCI
Pivot pins on ignition advance weights. There are specialty lubricants for this, but one container would last me and the next three generations who would inherit this machine with half a container left over. I can't see buying it if I don't need to.

The fretting and galling tends to destroy the advance weight unit fairly quickly. Over 40 years I have not seen grease of any kind hold up particularly well to the temperature of an air-cooled and oil-cooled engine (antique Harley), I've never measured it, but it gets hot, I imagine 250 degrees F or more. Regular old NGLI #2 Lithium grease goes away quickly, that's established. Silicone (ignition cam) grease is gone even sooner. Anti-seize by itself seems to work for a little while, but not great.

The mating parts never see real rotation, just a pivoting through a few degrees upon acceleration and deceleration, but the do tend to beat themselves apart.


What about the high temp silicone brake grease type stuff??

 

[CCI]

No idea why I didn't think of that. Now that you mention it, I bet it's perfect.

Thank you!

 

[CT8]

Ahhh,,,, I used to on Chevrolet distributors use graphite spray. A couple of drops on the pivots and rubbing surfaces and I honestly couldn't tell you if it was worth it or not ..

 

[CCI]

I have no idea how many sets of the cheap Chinese replacements I went through after the OEM became unavailable, but I do recall three instances where the springs broke with the expected result. I finally installed the stainless steel Made In USA version, the difference in engine response is amazing. I wish I had done that years ago.

Judging by the apparent quality I imagine any lubricant would work now, but the unit is very expensive and I was tired of dealing with loose advance weights and broken springs decades ago. If the right lube on the pivot pins will make a difference, I'm in.

I will put a few thousand miles on the mixture of lubriplate and antiseize and report back here. If it doesn't hold up I will try the brake pin lube.