Millers XF Longlife 0w20 Engine Oil

[geetar]

My next oil change in the 2011 Suzuki Swift 1.2L will be with this oil. Does anyone have any experience with it?

DESCRIPTION:
A high performance fully synthetic fuel efficient engine oil for makes such as Chrysler, Honda, Lexus, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Proton, Subaru, Suzuki and Toyota.

APPLICATION:
Synthetic engine oil technology for passenger car gasoline engines which provides protection from deposits and wear. Not recommended for cars requiring low or mid saps.

USER BENEFITS:

• Improved engine efficiency and improves fuel economy
• Excellent low temperature performance
• Excellent oxidation and thermal stability
• Wear protection throughout the drain period

PERFORMANCE PROFILE:

• ILSAC GF-5
• API SN

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Not with that brand, But I do have some experience with Miller's High life. That tryst was mostly forgettable.

Have you run this lightweight oil before, maybe in a different brand?

 

[kschachn]

You do know what "performance profile" means, right? Nothing. The oil isn't API licensed per the EOLCS.

 

[SlavaB]

Weird, per user manual they state 5w30 ain't any good below -15C(5f)
I'd better pick your local Magnatec 0w20

 

[Gene K]

If it isn't ACEA or API run don't walk.

 

[Zaedock]

I do have some experience with Miller's High life. That tryst was mostly forgettable.

I like it. After all, it's the champagne of beers.

 

[Zaedock]

I did check out the website and couldn't find a datasheet on any of the grades.

 

[DirectRejection]

The comments are rather flippant.
Miller High Life ? OP probably drinks cool pints of Fuller's London Pride.
Also, Miller's Oil has a stellar reputation...use with confidence.

 

[kschachn]

The comments are rather flippant.
Miller High Life ? OP probably drinks cool pints of Fuller's London Pride.
Also, Miller's Oil has a stellar reputation...use with confidence.

Comments are only as flippant as the company is with their product. Producers like this that can't be bothered to obtain even the most basic of certifications (that they sort of, kinda, maybe want you to believe they have) already lose their "stellar reputation" with me.

Nary a license, nary a certification, nary an approval and nary a PDS. No thanks.

 

[DirectRejection]

Millers Oil XF Longlife 0W20 VW is an example of one of their well-substantiated products.

At the Millers Oil UK website, there is a downloadable, personalized letter from VW to a Millers Oil executive.

The letter declares this oil to be "Approved under VW Standard 508.00 and VW Standard 509.00."

It is signed in blue ink by two VW Phd's in Wolfsburg.

BTW doesn't Suzuki recommend 5W30 for the K12B engine ?

 

[Gene K]

Millers Oil XF Longlife 0W20 VW is an example of one of their well-substantiated products.

At the Millers Oil UK website, there is a downloadable, personalized letter from VW to a Millers Oil executive.

The letter declares this oil to be "Approved under VW Standard 508.00 and VW Standard 509.00."

It is signed in blue ink by two VW Phd's in Wolfsburg.

BTW doesn't Suzuki recommend 5W30 for the K12B engine ?

On the 5W-30 it says it's 504.00/507.00 VW Approved. VW list ACEA C3 Certification as a prerequisite for that so I think we may be running into a verbage issue. According to VW you can't be one without the other.

 

[geetar]

Weird, per user manual they state 5w30 ain't any good below -15C(5f)
I'd better pick your local Magnatec 0w20

We don't get -15C to be honest, but would presume better fuel economy and cold start protection from the 0w20.

 

[geetar]

Millers Oil XF Longlife 0W20 VW is an example of one of their well-substantiated products.

At the Millers Oil UK website, there is a downloadable, personalized letter from VW to a Millers Oil executive.

The letter declares this oil to be "Approved under VW Standard 508.00 and VW Standard 509.00."

It is signed in blue ink by two VW Phd's in Wolfsburg.

BTW doesn't Suzuki recommend 5W30 for the K12B engine ?

If you see the screenshot posted by @SlavaB you can see the 0w20 is the desired oil for all temperature ranges, but yes 5w30 would work in my application.

 

[geetar]

You do know what "performance profile" means, right? Nothing. The oil isn't API licensed per the EOLCS.

This actually escaped me, thanks!

 

[geetar]

Not with that brand, But I do have some experience with Miller's High life. That tryst was mostly forgettable.

Have you run this lightweight oil before, maybe in a different brand?

No I haven't, only in the Suzuki.

 

[OVERKILL]

Weird, per user manual they state 5w30 ain't any good below -15C(5f)
I'd better pick your local Magnatec 0w20

Unless you have the "Sport" model, then it's good to -30C LOL!

 

[Bailes1992]

Not a bad thing to say about Millers. They make a good product.

However, they don't pay for independent testing and approvals and often you can get oils from a major manufacturer cheaper and they come with actual approvals. As you're out of warranty, Ford WSS-M2C913D oils can be found everywhere in the UK. They are a thin 30 weight and as we don't get very cold weather the 5w will see you well.

FYI, as long as the oil is viscous and pumpable then it will reach all the extremities of the engine at exactly the same time. The whole start-up weather and oil getting places faster is just old wives tales.

 

[SlavaB]

Unless you have the "Sport" model, then it's good to -30C LOL!

Exactly my thoughts. Unless you paid extra, won’t start in winter haha