Midwestern flooding

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What's up with these people? Do they have any sense at all?
Building communities in well established flood plains and then wondering how a simple remnant tropical storm like Erin could send rivers and streams out of their banks. Now we see helicopter rescues, governors and mayors wringing their hands and signing one emergency proclamation after another, etc. Then Chicago gets some straight line winds and a few trees down and the world is coming to an end. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, et al. It's pitiful. Can you say evacuation people? It's not like it was a big surprise. Next thing you know they'll be seeking recovery and rebuilding assistance from wherever they can get it. Have you seen any of the man on the street interviews with the victims? You know what I'm talking about. Nothing but a bunch of corn fed mouth breathing rednecks. Now I do feel bad about the loss of life. Last count was seventeen I believe. Condolences are in order without a doubt. I say we just write off the entire midwest and upper midwest since it is inevitable that these events will take place again in the future. What has the whole area contibuted to the country anyway besides hayseed county fairs and 4-H?

Just kidding.

The two year anniversary of Katrina/Rita is at hand and garnering the usual press coverage which reminded me of many of the above stated sentiments initially aimed at the Gulf Coast and NOLA in particular. It was just as hurtful then as if I really meant it (I don't) in reference to the weather related tragedies now taking place upstream in the Mississippi valley. One recent statistic cited on the radio was that better than 90% of the population in America has at one time or another been under a presidential declaration of disaster.

My only honest advice? Do not under any circumstances let FEMA get a foothold. I mean it. And for those insured by Allstate? Get ready. The misery has only just started. Now. Where did that chip on my shoulder go?
 
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Have you seen any of the man on the street interviews with the victims? You know what I'm talking about. Nothing but a bunch of corn fed mouth breathing rednecks.




Louisiana, huh. Let's see, pot... black, kettle... black, hmmm. Maybe you should keep comments such as these to yourself.

Granted, living in a flood plain or along a bluff is a risky proposition, but we're talking about a minimum 200 year event here (likely a 500 year event). And in this area, the water came up with little notice. It tends to do that when you get 15+ inches of rain.

I saw the damage as part of my job and we're talking about rushing water several feet deep in areas of hundreds to thousands of acres. The damage to infrastructure is almost inconceivable. Heck, we haven't been able to located one of the bridges that got washed away.

BTW, putting 'just kidding' after a tirade such as yours, doesn't cut it. That was not a joke and I think most here at BITOG would agree. Have a nice day.
 
In SOME cases, the floods followed the folks.

Huh?

Well, there are areas where folks built houses where there was no record or evidence of past flooding.

Then, years, decades or more later.

WHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FLOOD!!!!!!!!!!

As our population continues to grow and grow and GROW, as suburbs spread. More and more paving, house tops, things that do not absorb water... as the run-off increases... the drainage systems are called upon to accept loads above the norm.

All those storm drains eventually dump into a natural waterway. As the wall of water follows the natural path woe unto them who had been safe in the past.

This explanation does not cover all flooding events. But, for some it does.

I have informed the local bureaucracies of the inevitable flood event with the creek around 400 feet from the shanty. As the suburban sprawls continues unabated I see the creek running higher every year. I know the normal flood plain is expanding but is anything being done?

Bwa hah hah hah hah hah!!!!

If the McMansions on the hill were threatened no price would be too high to prepare the creek. But, it's the old part of the hamlet threatened. We do not count. We are peons, scum, vermin. Suitable for living under bridges in our refrigerator boxes or to serve in the military (I have not met a single local elite who served in the military).

There you go. One reason for a FEW flood events.

As the population continues to expand to one billion, then more. Y'all better expect more flooding events. It's inevitable.
 
The same thing happens when people build expensive homes on the beach, ignorant of local erosion rates, then a few years later demanding the government spend money for berm renourishment, jetties, sandbags, etc.
 
I agree, but only to a point. Before the motor age, people HAD to live near water. Now they don't have to. However, most metropolis' nowadays are near water.

Our bodies are 98% water. That means were only a inch away from drowning anyway!
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I agree with the airport comment. People move to Bensenville (near Ohare) then whine about the noise. I say that anyone who does that should have a target painted on their home so that airplanes can rightfully aim to deposit their frozen sewage on these stellar citizens who exhibit common sense at every turn.
 
wagsg,

The over the top sociocultural reference to the current event's typical victim is deliberate. Quick! If I say, "Katrina victim" whose picture pops into your head? The Heineken Looter Dude? The low income African Americans waving sheets at helicopters from the roofs of the projects? Or the 1.3 million people of every description who successfully evacuated the Gulf region before Katrina made landfall even though the forecasters were dead wrong on the expected track until 48 hours prior. But you won't see that when the networks dig up the archival footage next week for the obligatory news blurb about the anniversary. Many lessons were learned as a result of 2005 storms and my hope is that this year's victims are better served as a result.

I have traveled to Minnesota once by car from Louisiana and through most of the states mentioned in my OP. It was to secure a medical consult for a family member at the Mayo Clinic. It was a wonderful trip and I saw first hand the beauty of our country's heartland.

But your sensitivity about crass comments about this experience will probably just grow. Obviously, mine is still firmly in place about this region. Want to trade disaster war stories? I got the pics. Taken from my front porch. Nah. Nevermind.

Time to see if I can photoshop a gopher swimming off with a plasma TV...
 
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I agree, but only to a point. Before the motor age, people HAD to live near water. Now they don't have to. However, most metropolis' nowadays are near water.

Our bodies are 98% water. That means were only a inch away from drowning anyway!
smile.gif


I agree with the airport comment. People move to Bensenville (near Ohare) then whine about the noise. I say that anyone who does that should have a target painted on their home so that airplanes can rightfully aim to deposit their frozen sewage on these stellar citizens who exhibit common sense at every turn.




Back home a huge resort condo thing was built on the shore near an inlet, The erosion rate was well-known to be at least 7 feet a year, and the inlet was alos known to migrate drastically. In fact, the entire part of the island where the resort was built used to be the inlet.
Less than a decade after it was built, guess what? Water lapping at the walls, cuurent inlet moving closer every day. The outcry for a help began.
 
I was in Chicago when I-80/90 and I-94 were both closed due to flooding. It took 6 hours and many a turn to get myself extricated from it. Hmmm, there's an idea, building a main artery for the nation a few feet above a flood-prone lake. The traffic snarls were half a day long. And feeling sorry for those poor people without a GPS or mapping software on their laptop.
 
I feel terrible for people flooded out of their homes.

That being said, you build in a flood plane(zone) you should bear the full brunt of a loss.

My homeowner's went up 1/3 after Katrina and I have never had a claim. Still dont. What's fair about that?
 
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