Microsoft Edge?

[MONKEYMAN]

Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I think all these "cleaners" and antivirus software and system utilities have done more damage and SLOWED down more peoples computers then the things they say they will fix/prevent then if they left it alone and never downloaded anything.

Its like the modern day version of motor oil additives for computer systems (snake oil)
Stick with Windows 10 utilities, dont download [censored] onto your computer, dont add in "free" antivirus software, its all [censored].



I agree with some utilities being snake oil. I have used some of them (IObit), then came here to get enlightened. I have found CCleaner very helpful. Even donated so would get newest version in mailbox. Now, I am finding not as helpful since Linux seems to mean using Windows very little.

Using car analogy I see utilities more like modifying a car. I work in a field were some people need assistive devices. Trying to make Windows 10 usable for someone who does not deal well with change. Classic Shell,etc make that possible.

The problem I am finding some of the go to downloads now have strings attached.

 

[alarmguy]

Originally Posted By: MONKEYMAN
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
I think all these "cleaners" and antivirus software and system utilities have done more damage and SLOWED down more peoples computers then the things they say they will fix/prevent then if they left it alone and never downloaded anything.

Its like the modern day version of motor oil additives for computer systems (snake oil)
Stick with Windows 10 utilities, dont download [censored] onto your computer, dont add in "free" antivirus software, its all [censored].



I agree with some utilities being snake oil. I have used some of them (IObit), then came here to get enlightened. I have found CCleaner very helpful. Even donated so would get newest version in mailbox. Now, I am finding not as helpful since Linux seems to mean using Windows very little.

Using car analogy I see utilities more like modifying a car. I work in a field were some people need assistive devices. Trying to make Windows 10 usable for someone who does not deal well with change. Classic Shell,etc make that possible.

The problem I am finding some of the go to downloads now have strings attached.



Agree, but unlike you, the general population has no idea what they are downloading and putting on their computers (or smart phones)
Some of these programs and apps are actually selling your browsing history to 3rd parties or other things,.

SO they are better off not over thinking it, other then, use Edge only for banking or whatever important tasks as its security will always be automatically updated.

Use Opera or Firefox ( I use both) for everything else. DUMP GOOGLE CHROME. duckduckgo.com is a great search engine too and unlike google, it doesnt invade your privacy.

 

[BearZDefect]

Originally Posted By: Garak
CCleaner was always great to get rid of things Windows would leave behind or otherwise "forget about." I haven't gone into Windows 10 at all to know how well it cleans up things like that. ...

That was true about CCleaner before, and is still true with Windows 10. Windows still leaves behind mountains of worthless log files, and compressed archives of those logs for posterity, plus various temporary files whose creators never bothered to delete, etc. Windows does have a "Disk Cleanup" tool, but that tool seems to take about half an hour of CPU-intensive time to clean up, whereas CCleaner does the job in less than a minute.

In the past year CCleaner has unfortunately taken a turn for the worse, not due to function, but it seems the sales and marketing force at Piriform decided they needed to become more aggressive with this handy program they have been giving away.

For the record, I have purchased CCleaner Business Edition before for business use. It adds some handy 'pro' features that can be useful for a business, but I don't need those features on my own PC.

 

[irv]

Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: Garak
Irv, I haven't used Windows 10 yet, and am mostly a Linux guy. However, my recommendation would be not to worry about what CC (or anything else) says about MS Edge. If it's anything like previous versions of Windows, the browser is integral to the operating system, so there's not a lot you can do about it anyhow. Use an alternative browser (Firefox is my choice). What we cannot change in the OS, we have to let slide.

As for CC, I've always used it in Windows, but don't know what issues it may or may not have in Windows 10.
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
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As far as Chrome? Garbage, you give your personal information to google to sell, in the name of free?
I wonder how many people know, that with the password to your gmail account, I can look on a map and see EVERY place you have EVER been too with your Android phone, including stores and (umm) hotels by EXACT time, date and year.


I am not a computer guy by any stretch so everything you mentioned is news to me. I ran CCleaner on my old system so I assumed my new windows 10 would also benefit from it?
I also use super anti spyware and Avast, which likely, according to you is also silly?

With CCleaner and SASW, I still receive a lot cookies and junk so I think those are at least doing something? Same with Avast, it finds and removes stuff as well plus it alerts me if I go into an unsafe site/link.


Its all snake oil, mostly, no need for add on programs. Windows 10 takes care if it, many of these programs slow down your system, more so if you have an older system, Super antisypware, Avast ect ... I dont see the point, you want privacy so you install programs that constantly send information to them about all your browsing ...
Windows 10 makes it almost impossible to go to a roque site and yes, warns you too, it also does automatic virus scans ect, ect.

Anyway, not knocking what you do, just letting you know, your installing all this stuff for no reason other then for other companies to make money off you AND money off selling your information to third parties, to sell ads to place on your computer.


I guess I'll just forget about it and live with it if there is nothing I can do about it?
As far as using the other security stuff, I am going to have to dig more into it more but being as I am use to it and all, I may just continue to use it for the time being?
The only one I pay for is Avast. It was recommended and installed when I purchased my computer from a Non big store shop where I know the owner somewhat.
As for the others, I downloaded them "Free" from Filehippo.com.

Thanks for the help/tips, guys. I appreciate it.

I figured it out just yesterday. I went into Apps then Microsoft edge and hit the uninstall, which did nothing, it wouldn't ever highlight.
From there I went to advanced options and seen everything was in the on or running position. I just shut those off and all is good now.
I am unsure how advance or behind the times my Windows 10 computer is, but not once did I find a tutorial that showed me what I did yesterday.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Not seeing Advanced Options listed on my Windows 10 Search.

 

[irv]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Not seeing Advanced Options listed on my Windows 10 Search.


This is what I did.

In the lower left corner I right clicked the small square 4 blocks icon, (Windows icon, box, logo?) then went to settings then apps. Once in Apps, I scrolled down until I seen Microsoft edge which I clicked on and opened to see move/install in 2 seperate boxes.
Like I mentioned, clicking uninstall did nothing so I went to advance options which was right under the Microsoft edge Microsoft Corporation heading. Once in there I noticed to the left all the microsoft edge Apps permissions were turned on. I simple turned them off and no more edge issues or popups.

Like I also mentioned earlier, I have no idea how good/bad old or new my system is. I purchased it about 2-3 yrs ago now at a computer store close to me. It is not from Best Buy or anything like that, more private I would say.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Thanks Irv!.... I found that Advanced Options link.
All my Edge App permissions were set to Off. But I still get the Edge webpage when my computer starts sometimes. It's either that one, or a Bing webpage, both arrive on the Edge Browser, which I never use. Neither Bing nor Edge can be uninstalled.

I guess it's all part of Windows 10 Home, that was given to us free when we allowed Microsoft to upgrade us from 8.1 Home to 10 Home.

 

[irv]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Thanks Irv!.... I found that Advanced Options link.
All my Edge App permissions were set to Off. But I still get the Edge webpage when my computer starts sometimes. It's either that one, or a Bing webpage, both arrive on the Edge Browser, which I never use. Neither Bing nor Edge can be uninstalled.

I guess it's all part of Windows 10 Home, that was given to us free when we allowed Microsoft to upgrade us from 8.1 Home to 10 Home.


You're welcome.

Although I haven't tried what I learned on my wife's laptop, I think the same thing will be the case with hers as hers is also an upgrade to Windows 10.

I forgot to mention her laptop was getting the Edge nonsense long before I started getting here on mine.

When I was in searching around, I seen an update from Windows dated July sometime and that is around the time when I started having Edge issues.

Glad it is gone now. No more "pita" problems with Ccleaner and I have noticed far fewer pop ups as well. Not sure if that is related, but it seems odd if it isn't.

 

[BJD78]

It is default with win 10. I used Edge just once and that was to download the Firefox browser. edge use that Bing search engine and or MSN portal and I do not like Bing or MSN that much. You can never get rid of edge, but you have the option to not use it and set another browser like Firefox, opera, safari etc as default. Since I have firefox and keep Opera as a browser backup. If Firefox and opera would both fail I guess I could use edge a a third string backup browser. There are some people who like Edge though, I am certainly glad that there are alternatives.

 

[BJD78]

Agreed. Win 10 does its own cleanup and defrags and disc cleanup and will do it automatically at whatever interval you set up daily, weekly monthly etc. The window defender anti virus works as well as any despite what the computer mags say about it. have used it for years and have always had fast startups and boot times without annoying ads from free antivirus.No need for extra bloat ware that does nothing but bog pcs down. the first thing I do with a new computer is remove all of the useless bloatware that often come pre intalled.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
That was true about CCleaner before, and is still true with Windows 10. Windows still leaves behind mountains of worthless log files, and compressed archives of those logs for posterity, plus various temporary files whose creators never bothered to delete, etc. Windows does have a "Disk Cleanup" tool, but that tool seems to take about half an hour of CPU-intensive time to clean up, whereas CCleaner does the job in less than a minute.

On 8, I haven't experimented enough. I know it was the case with 7, and I certainly don't doubt that any of them leave stuff behind that it shouldn't.

Personally, I can do a fair bit of cleaning manually, but that certainly isn't fast, either, which is one of the attractions of CCleaner.