OP, you probably have a bad alignment causing the cupping.
Michellin Tires - POS
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Nick1994
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Usually bad shocks or struts cause cupping. The tires hops going down the road like a basketball,you can't usually feel it.
But I had a set of Michelin HydroEdge tires that one had to be replaced under warranty, and only that one cupped really bad and was really loud.
But I had a set of Michelin HydroEdge tires that one had to be replaced under warranty, and only that one cupped really bad and was really loud.
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Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
I had Michellin LTX on my Highlander and they cupped 25K into its warranty and drove those [censored] tires for another 30K (with my tires roaring and spending money getting my hub/bearings changed) driving it to get my 60K out of them.
With mileage warranty they were replaced with Michellin Premier (WTFF names they get) and they are cupping and flashing in 12K miles.
I made Discount Tire replace those [censored] tires with Bridgestones for FREE, I am almost lost it talking to their area manager and telling them how much money I have spent on Michellins to proving my Highlander is in top notch shape (3 alignments done in the past 100K miles).
I am freaking done with these Michellin garbages
Never, never had Michelin cupping. Had Kumho that cupped, Hankook, but NEVER Michelin.
They do not go bad on BMW which is much harder on tires then Toyota. So, I would say there is an issue with a car.
Also, you drove 30k more to get out 60k? Now that is something I do not understand.
I had Michellin LTX on my Highlander and they cupped 25K into its warranty and drove those [censored] tires for another 30K (with my tires roaring and spending money getting my hub/bearings changed) driving it to get my 60K out of them.
With mileage warranty they were replaced with Michellin Premier (WTFF names they get) and they are cupping and flashing in 12K miles.
I made Discount Tire replace those [censored] tires with Bridgestones for FREE, I am almost lost it talking to their area manager and telling them how much money I have spent on Michellins to proving my Highlander is in top notch shape (3 alignments done in the past 100K miles).
I am freaking done with these Michellin garbages
Never, never had Michelin cupping. Had Kumho that cupped, Hankook, but NEVER Michelin.
They do not go bad on BMW which is much harder on tires then Toyota. So, I would say there is an issue with a car.
Also, you drove 30k more to get out 60k? Now that is something I do not understand.
Until you fix your truck, the same thing is going to happen to the Bridgestones.
Maybe find a better alignment shop.
Maybe find a better alignment shop.
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Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Even in spec alignments can cause wear if its the rears are near the maximum allowable toe in and negative camber.
I find setting the car at max toe in within spec reduces cupping. When it is max toe out within spec it greatly accelerates cupping.
Even in spec alignments can cause wear if its the rears are near the maximum allowable toe in and negative camber.
I find setting the car at max toe in within spec reduces cupping. When it is max toe out within spec it greatly accelerates cupping.
Can a tire in and of itself cause cupping? Is that a condition that is even related to tire quality?
Folks, I understand an older car could have worn out suspension.
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
I think this is one of the best articles about tire wear:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/g810/10-things-your-tires-can-tell-you-about-your-car/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/g810/10-things-your-tires-can-tell-you-about-your-car/
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Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
The Highlander is babied all over - rotations, alignments, and others changes. The BFG prior held up quite well.
The same happened with Michellins on my Lexus (replaced the OEM at 20K and replaced the Michellin at 60K), they are bad bad tires.
Interesting. I guess they're allergic to toyotas. Or your driving style perhaps.
On our Hondas, each car about 32k mikes in, they've barely worn from OE tread depth. Both see very mixed driving with a bias for around town. Even the PSS on my 135i are looking great.
The Highlander is babied all over - rotations, alignments, and others changes. The BFG prior held up quite well.
The same happened with Michellins on my Lexus (replaced the OEM at 20K and replaced the Michellin at 60K), they are bad bad tires.
Interesting. I guess they're allergic to toyotas. Or your driving style perhaps.
On our Hondas, each car about 32k mikes in, they've barely worn from OE tread depth. Both see very mixed driving with a bias for around town. Even the PSS on my 135i are looking great.
I've had to pull off two sets of Michelin tires, with less than 40,000 miles on them.
One set was a set of "90,000 mile" (supposedly) Defenders. They never even made it to 40,000 miles. My 79 year old father is apparently very hard on tires.
But to some around here, they're more than perfect. I guess that anything is possible with enough Kool-Aid.
No more overpriced rubbish for me.
One set was a set of "90,000 mile" (supposedly) Defenders. They never even made it to 40,000 miles. My 79 year old father is apparently very hard on tires.
But to some around here, they're more than perfect. I guess that anything is possible with enough Kool-Aid.
No more overpriced rubbish for me.
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Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Folks, I understand an older car could have worn out suspension.
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
I do not want tire that lasts 60k! It is POS in wet.
Folks, I understand an older car could have worn out suspension.
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
I do not want tire that lasts 60k! It is POS in wet.
Nick1994
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Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Folks, I understand an older car could have worn out suspension.
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
2 completely different cars of different ages.
You could even buy 2 2006 Highlanders brand new, one wears it's suspension early and the other seems to never worn out. Never know what you're gonna get.
Folks, I understand an older car could have worn out suspension.
How could that explain a Lexus (my wife drives it) that exhibited wear (no cupping) much earlier than the tire warranty.?
If its not the tires, its the installation and balancing (quite annnal about rotation).
2 completely different cars of different ages.
You could even buy 2 2006 Highlanders brand new, one wears it's suspension early and the other seems to never worn out. Never know what you're gonna get.
It might be time for my lecture on tire wear - you know, the one where I point out that cornering is where most of the tire wear occurs. The one where grandma taking short trips to the store really eats up tires faster than the guy with the 50 mile commute.
Originally Posted By: miden851
my last set of Primacy lasted 3 years or 50K and that matched the warranty period on them; now I drive with Bridgestone Serenity Plus and I hate them, so naturally, ill stick with Primacy next time
Comfort and noise issues?
my last set of Primacy lasted 3 years or 50K and that matched the warranty period on them; now I drive with Bridgestone Serenity Plus and I hate them, so naturally, ill stick with Primacy next time
Comfort and noise issues?
Originally Posted By: nap
Originally Posted By: miden851
my last set of Primacy lasted 3 years or 50K and that matched the warranty period on them; now I drive with Bridgestone Serenity Plus and I hate them, so naturally, ill stick with Primacy next time
Comfort and noise issues?
no, its just the handling part
btw on Primacy, they've been able to strike balance with comfort, noise and handling; while on Serenity they got together comfort and noise but the handling part is missing, which I prefer
Originally Posted By: miden851
my last set of Primacy lasted 3 years or 50K and that matched the warranty period on them; now I drive with Bridgestone Serenity Plus and I hate them, so naturally, ill stick with Primacy next time
Comfort and noise issues?
no, its just the handling part
btw on Primacy, they've been able to strike balance with comfort, noise and handling; while on Serenity they got together comfort and noise but the handling part is missing, which I prefer
I had Energies and Primacy's on my Camry, and they were 30k tires. Wore well, good traction at the end, but 30k tires. The Primacy was worse in the snow than Energy. Junk IMO, and I have no interest in finding out what Defenders do, not when RT43's last longer & are cheaper, and do ok in snow (when new). They were quiet, wore evenly and worked well in the wet, I'll give them that.
Try Pirellis.
I put a set of P4s on the newer Accord around 32K back and have found them to be very good.
They show very little wear and remain good on puddled roads at speed as well as in winter conditions.
I've had pretty good experience with Michelins in the past but they're rarely offered at a price that makes sense.
For those with LT applications, Kumho makes some very good tires that are easily the equal of Michelins on our fleet vehicles at work based upon our actual experience.
I put a set of P4s on the newer Accord around 32K back and have found them to be very good.
They show very little wear and remain good on puddled roads at speed as well as in winter conditions.
I've had pretty good experience with Michelins in the past but they're rarely offered at a price that makes sense.
For those with LT applications, Kumho makes some very good tires that are easily the equal of Michelins on our fleet vehicles at work based upon our actual experience.
edyvw
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Originally Posted By: supton
I had Energies and Primacy's on my Camry, and they were 30k tires. Wore well, good traction at the end, but 30k tires. The Primacy was worse in the snow than Energy. Junk IMO, and I have no interest in finding out what Defenders do, not when RT43's last longer & are cheaper, and do ok in snow (when new). They were quiet, wore evenly and worked well in the wet, I'll give them that.
Primacy in snow? It is not junk, it is not intended for snow unless some extraordinary circumstances.
I had Energies and Primacy's on my Camry, and they were 30k tires. Wore well, good traction at the end, but 30k tires. The Primacy was worse in the snow than Energy. Junk IMO, and I have no interest in finding out what Defenders do, not when RT43's last longer & are cheaper, and do ok in snow (when new). They were quiet, wore evenly and worked well in the wet, I'll give them that.
Primacy in snow? It is not junk, it is not intended for snow unless some extraordinary circumstances.
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