McDonalds sued for non-Halal sandwitches

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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL


No it isn't you fool, the point of the thread was to discuss the ridiculous lawsuit, not Muslims. I know, because I created the bloody thread!!!


I'm kinda surprised that you created this thread. But since it is you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Still friends? I hope so.

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I was looking at the latest Megan Fox photoshoot on Faux when I saw this in the bottom and was like, WHAT? Clicked on it and was like "but it's freakin' McDonalds!
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And figured I'd post it here, as I thought it was completely silly!
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool


McDonalds is a corporation and does not care at all about what we need as a society, but what we want enough to pay for frequently. If those "non-whites" you mentioned represented a large enough demand (of people who wanted a particular item on the menu,) then that item would probably be on the menu, just as it is in asian countries.


I believe it was mentioned in the article, but the ONLY place with this type of McDonalds restaurant exists are where this happened. There are apparently a couple in the area. I've never bore witness to McDonalds catering to any particular group of anything, hence my Markham example.

I'm quite confident that enough Asian people enjoy the standard McDonalds fare that its presence, in its original form is satisfactory in Markham.

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To comment on a point that was made earlier: what if this had happened as a result of people eating non-fish meat products on Lent? If a product is advertised as something that affects some one deeply, be it physically (i.e., allergic reaction) or religiously, and enough people who would not otherwise eat at McDonalds demand it, then Mcdonalds should be held accountable if that product is not as advertised.


I guess this is where you lose me. Allergies I can completely understand, but we aren't talking about allergies, we are talking about meat being blessed/not blessed. It doesn't actually CHANGE the meat or make it any less "McDonalds" for you
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(religious folk, go easy on me here!)

I guess that's where I draw the distinction and why I find it so silly. It is awful American fast food. Blessed or not blessed, it doesn't make it any less awful
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I can't wrap my head around the idea that my food needs religious attention. It just doesn't compute with me. That's why I found this so silly. Not just because somebody wants to bless their food, if they want to do that, that is their business and all the power to them. But that in this context, we are talking specifically about the company that is the poster child for the American fast food industry, and thinking about that in any sort of religious light puts me in stitches!
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: gathermewool


McDonalds is a corporation and does not care at all about what we need as a society, but what we want enough to pay for frequently. If those "non-whites" you mentioned represented a large enough demand (of people who wanted a particular item on the menu,) then that item would probably be on the menu, just as it is in asian countries.


I believe it was mentioned in the article, but the ONLY place with this type of McDonalds restaurant exists are where this happened. There are apparently a couple in the area. I've never bore witness to McDonalds catering to any particular group of anything, hence my Markham example.

I'm quite confident that enough Asian people enjoy the standard McDonalds fare that its presence, in its original form is satisfactory in Markham.

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To comment on a point that was made earlier: what if this had happened as a result of people eating non-fish meat products on Lent? If a product is advertised as something that affects some one deeply, be it physically (i.e., allergic reaction) or religiously, and enough people who would not otherwise eat at McDonalds demand it, then Mcdonalds should be held accountable if that product is not as advertised.


I guess this is where you lose me. Allergies I can completely understand, but we aren't talking about allergies, we are talking about meat being blessed/not blessed. It doesn't actually CHANGE the meat or make it any less "McDonalds" for you
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(religious folk, go easy on me here!)

I guess that's where I draw the distinction and why I find it so silly. It is awful American fast food. Blessed or not blessed, it doesn't make it any less awful
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I can't wrap my head around the idea that my food needs religious attention. It just doesn't compute with me. That's why I found this so silly. Not just because somebody wants to bless their food, if they want to do that, that is their business and all the power to them. But that in this context, we are talking specifically about the company that is the poster child for the American fast food industry, and thinking about that in any sort of religious light puts me in stitches!
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Ah, I think we're on the same page now.
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My comment was simply that, just because a belief in something does not affect your soul, doesn't mean it won't affect another's (note: again, I am not religious.) How many Catholics do you know who don't eat meat during Lent? Fish is on the good-to-go list, so a McDonald's fish sandwich is perfectly fine to eat, and McDonald's knows this.

I can't answer why that specific McDonald's offers special items, but it's for sure not out of the kindness of their hearts. Oddly enough, I don't recall any of the local McDonald's being kosher in Long Island, where I went to school.
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Overkill, you say that you can't get your head around religious invocation connected with meat, but what about Kosher and what about the widespread tradition of saying Grace before a meal?

Food and religion / thanking God, goes hand in hand throughout America and the world.

In this case, a McDonalds franchise sought to profit by claiming to supply food meeting religious requirements. I thought there was no bigger crime in America than not respecting someone else's religion.

The reaction to this thread is exactly what Fox wanted to see.
 
Originally Posted By: Falken
I'm not Muslim, so I will be looking for a cash settlement if I ever eat something that is Halal and I am not told beforehand.

I have the right to be equally offended by consuming Halal products as they do for eating non-Halal products.

And I want them to fund a Catholic Church as part of the settlement as well.

I am not against Muslims, this is just to be compensated for Spiritual Harm on my own behalf and anyone else that isn't a Muslim.


Me too,but this sort of thing only works one way.
 
Sure seems like the root of the problem is that the McDonalds lied about what the man was receiving. If I order something with specific understanding about what it is, I assume that the people are being honest (even if it is McDonalds). While I don't get the whole Kosher/ Halal thing, I have Jewish friends for whom this is extremely important. If they ordered something that was described as Kosher and found out it was not, then they would be extremely upset and, I am certain, compensated. Good to be me, I can eat anything I want.

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You have every right not consume food that is Kosher. If this truly offends you and someone says it is Kosher then don't eat it- that is what a Jew or Muslim would do. If they said it definitely is not Kosher while it is, then you would have a complaint if it truly offends you. I solve this problem by adding cheese and/ or bacon to almost all meats.

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Lying about food certifications (organic, Halal, Kosher, etc.) is a pretty big deal. Just because you run out of the certified product doesn't mean you can grab non-certified stuff off the shelf and claim that it's something that it isn't.

I also find the claims in this thread that McDonalds is "bending over backwards to accommodate..." pretty ridiculous. They're selling Halal food because that's what market forces demand. It has nothing to do with being PC.

If they don't want to or can't sell Halal food, then they shouldn't advertise or claim that they do.
 
Originally Posted By: FoxS
Overkill, you say that you can't get your head around religious invocation connected with meat, but what about Kosher and what about the widespread tradition of saying Grace before a meal?

Food and religion / thanking God, goes hand in hand throughout America and the world.

In this case, a McDonalds franchise sought to profit by claiming to supply food meeting religious requirements. I thought there was no bigger crime in America than not respecting someone else's religion.

The reaction to this thread is exactly what Fox wanted to see.


I didn't grow up in a very religious family. We went to church a bit when I was a kid, but that tapered off. My grandmother was Catholic and more religious than the rest of us, but I don't recall her only eating fish around lent.

My dad says grace on thanksgiving, that's about the only time we do it and the kids are often in the other room powering back their food already at that point. I don't see the connection with regards to the content of the food, as our grace is just typically a thank you for everybody's health and that we are together having the meal. Not some form of blessing the contents so that we can eat it.
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With regards to your mention of Kosher, I don't know enough about what takes place there to comment. I also buy my meat at a local butcher if that is relevant.
 
I'm an atheist, so I have a hard time understanding how people intertwine the supernatural with their food, but I do try to respect other's beliefs.

My family tends to get together for Easter, which means various family members travel on Good Friday. They can't eat meat, which generally rules out most fast food (the only option on the highway), so getting a fish fillet at McDonalds is a de facto tradition. I have some very devout relatives, who would probably have a conniption if McDonalds used a meat filler in with their fish sandwich. Considering the sandwich was essentially designed for Catholics, putting anything else in it would be at the very least be false advertising and at most, intentionally disrespectful.

When I was a kid, you always knew it was Friday because we had fish for lunch at the school cafeteria, and every restaurant in the neighborhood had a fish special. In the adjacent neighborhood, it was pretty much the same thing but it was with Kosher requirements. It just makes business sense to know your customers.

I'm not sure how damages work for supernatural damages (giving a Catholic meat on Good Friday or putting shellfish filler in fish for a Jew) but at the very least, it most definitely is false advertising.
 
Originally Posted By: kb01
My family tends to get together for Easter, which means various family members travel on Good Friday. They can't eat meat, which generally rules out most fast food (the only option on the highway), so getting a fish fillet at McDonalds is a de facto tradition.


Was going to post similar...when I was a kid, we were often on the road on Good Friday, and it was the only time that we ever ate there, and only then fillet o' fish.
 
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I was looking at the latest Megan Fox photoshoot on Faux


A somewhat sincere question:- Are the Foxes related?
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
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I was looking at the latest Megan Fox photoshoot on Faux


A somewhat sincere question:- Are the Foxes related?


I hope not
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The featured photos would not be appropriate to post here, but I certainly suggest taking a gander
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Originally Posted By: Vikas
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Sand witches? Really?


I think Overkill did it intentionally!


Me? No, I'd never intentionally do a play on words..... LOL
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Especially when I find the topic amusing
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