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I loved my Mazda 2011 RX-8 Sport, and I love my current Mazda CX-5 Touring.
I can't wait until the new Mazda 3 arrives, so that I can test drive them.
Then I can't wait until the Alfa/Miata twins arrive so that I can test drive them.

Out of Mazda's entire lineup, the only two vehicles I wouldn't own are the Mazda 5 and the CX-9.

BC.
 
^ It looks great. No rust I'm aware of. I didn't know some of them had rust issues. My Subaru does a bit.
 
Designs are subjective, so it's not really a true statement. I personally don't like their designs that much across the board. Great cars though.
 
Love the 3, and like the new one, but my biggest issue is going to be the rust. Neighbor has a 09 hatch, and there is already rust on the wheelwell.

Good friends of ours have 08 Mazda 5, and it is starting some major issues under the hatch and the sliding doors.

MI eats cars alive here, and I like them to last, so this is an issue with me...
 
Originally Posted By: buster
^ It looks great. No rust I'm aware of. I didn't know some of them had rust issues. My Subaru does a bit.



I think just about every Mazda 3 I see on the road has (at the least) rust on the rear fenders where the bumper meets the fender.

My best suggestion (and I'm not sure how much it would help) is to make sure you shoot the hose up in there to flush out that area to keep it clean.
 
Rented one that had 30K on it. Probably should have complained because it was beat, but I wanted to get on down the road.

VERY impressed. Not one single rattle in 30K of city rental car use. Handled nicely and was comfortable. They kind of go about things differently with their light weight car, high output normally aspirated engine strategy.

Yeah. I heard that back east they rust. I'd definitely drop by Mazda if I were in the market.
 
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Maybe I need to nominate my 1991 626 LX 5dr. hatchback after putting my 1986 626 through 375,000 miles. However, when I went to buy a backup for the '86, in 2004, the choice was between the Mazda 3 and the Ford Focus with the 2.3lt. engine. The Focus was a fabulous choice as it has been an incredible car for 123,000 miles.
 
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Lets all hope mazda can keep it going. Per Industry insiders they are in a precarious situation that doesn't bode well for their long term future.

They need to merge with someone again soon, if the Yen moves they drop with it.
 
I still don't believe they are in as bad a situation as you feel they are in.
Once the new Mazda 3 hits showrooms later this year, their sales and profits will increase even more than they currently are, and they are profitable.

When they switch over Mazda 3 and Mazda 2 production next year to their all new facilities in Mexico, then they will have a buffer over the exchange rate between the Yen, and all other currencies.

Almoat all of their current cars are now using the SkyActiv engine platform, which allows them to build several different engines on one set of toolings, saving costs, and producing high quality engines. Their transmission families are on the same setup.

They have quite a few shared chassis platforms, and even suspension underpinnings between the Mazda 6, the CX-5, and the new Mazda 3, so yet again, more savings when they purchase in bulk.

There's a reason why they have been updating and releasing vehicles in the order that they have, and that's to have the best influence on their bottom line while releasing fantastic looking product to the marketplace, in as short a period of time as they can.

Mazda is doing better than it had with Ford's wallet in charge, and that wallet had a stranglehold on it for the last several years, anyway. Remember that Ford wasn't in the greatest of financial shape, either, to the point where they had to sell their name, in order to get a good influx of cash, just a few years back.

BC.
 
Mazda isn't going anywhere. They are designed around low volume sales. They have invested too much and are actually profitable. Plus they are going gang-busters over in Japan.
 
I hope Mazda sticks around. I feel like it's one of the few brands that hasn't sold out much of its character in the name of the mass market. I realize that's part of its problem but I think it also builds loyalty and brand enthusiasm.

We have one (a 2008 3s 5MT) and I would buy another if in the market for something they made.

I just wish the CX-5 has an MT available across more trim levels.
 
Mazda has the backing of Japanese corporate giant Sumimoto as well as Japanese Trustee Service and Trust banks. They were not profitable because Ford was not profitable, but with Ford gone, Mazda is the master of their own faith now.
Yes, they will need to partner up with someone to drive the production and R&D costs down, but they have strong financial backing and a very promising car lineup with technology that appears to be very reliable and actually delivering on fuel economy, so Mazda is not going away just yet.

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Agree with BC, KrisZ, badtlc. I don't see them going away, at all. The USA is a bit of a black hole for Mazda, but that's turning around slowly. Europeans, Russians, Australian and even Canadians love 'em. With Ford gone, they reserve all of their executive rights and business decisions- and it shows with the engineering that's actually getting to market, whereas before they were always snuffed out by their partner. If it weren't for Ford and financial troubles, Mazda would have had a luxury marque, a V8 and the V12 possibly would have hit the market- in the early 90s! The marketing campaign in North America wouldn't have been so neutered that it was virtually non-existent, and sales and profit likely much better. But that's not how things turned out. Instead their partner, wielding controlling equity, ordered them to kill development on their advanced V6, and limited them to 4 cylinder development, of which they would syndicate for their own use in exchange for questionable OEM components slathered with FoMoCo logos. I remember reading about that order to cease >4cylinder development over ten years ago, and I still can't get over it. So Mazda before really benefited only with funding for R&D, sales of their IP and lower component costs from economies of scale.

After many years of what I consider to be detrimental smothering, they're now free to do as they see fit. It's kind of remarkable what they've done since the split, and especially considering the debts from the past that still haunt them.

Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
I still don't believe they are in as bad a situation as you feel they are in.
Once the new Mazda 3 hits showrooms later this year, their sales and profits will increase even more than they currently are, and they are profitable.

When they switch over Mazda 3 and Mazda 2 production next year to their all new facilities in Mexico, then they will have a buffer over the exchange rate between the Yen, and all other currencies.

Almoat all of their current cars are now using the SkyActiv engine platform, which allows them to build several different engines on one set of toolings, saving costs, and producing high quality engines. Their transmission families are on the same setup.

They have quite a few shared chassis platforms, and even suspension underpinnings between the Mazda 6, the CX-5, and the new Mazda 3, so yet again, more savings when they purchase in bulk.

There's a reason why they have been updating and releasing vehicles in the order that they have, and that's to have the best influence on their bottom line while releasing fantastic looking product to the marketplace, in as short a period of time as they can.

Mazda is doing better than it had with Ford's wallet in charge, and that wallet had a stranglehold on it for the last several years, anyway. Remember that Ford wasn't in the greatest of financial shape, either, to the point where they had to sell their name, in order to get a good influx of cash, just a few years back.

BC.
 
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My family has had various Mazdas starting with a Ford Courier.

They've all been reliable.

My parents purchased my middle sister a 626. Her boyfriend, a noted killer of Chevrolet C10 trucks, tried to kill it. Even put it into a ditch. Couldn't kill it.

My dad just recently retired his '89 B2200 with about 350,000 miles on it. It probably consumed as much oil as it leaked, and that was quite a bit. But it got passed around from brothers in law to grandsons and got them all from point A to point B

My 12A 4bbl RX-7 tolerated me not knowing any better and running Syntec 5W50.

I recently drove a newish Accord coupe. I liked the engine but the handling? C'mon...honestly my 8 year old/142,000 hatchback still handles better. Maybe it had something to do with the all-season Michelins.
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Similarly, the Altima SE-R failed to wow me with it's handling. Engine? Oh yeah. Better than my smaller Ford Duratec. I'm sure a G35 driver has been surprised to see that "wrong wheel drive" Altima sticking right there with 'em in a straightaway. But it lacks the precision of the Mazda in a corner.

I still do not know how Subaru holds a small sales margin over Mazda. I probably see 30 Mazdas for every one Subaru here. And this isn't a small market either. Like having San Francisco, Oakland, and San Diego in one land-locked Metropolitan area. Didn't see any more Subarus in Houston either. The Subaru dealer across from the Mazda Dealer just went out of business here. Potential buyers all over the Mazda lot. They must sell Subarus in New England states, West coast states and Colorado like they sell Silverados and F-150s here.
 
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
I still do not know how Subaru holds a small sales margin over Mazda. I probably see 30 Mazdas for every one Subaru here. And this isn't a small market either. Like having San Francisco, Oakland, and San Diego in one land-locked Metropolitan area. Didn't see any more Subarus in Houston either. The Subaru dealer across from the Mazda Dealer just went out of business here. Potential buyers all over the Mazda lot. They must sell Subarus in New England states, West coast states and Colorado like they sell Silverados and F-150s here.


Yes, you are correct that they sell Subarus like hotcakes out here in Colorado.
It's the choice of vehicles for people who know they shouldn't be driving in bad weather, but are too stupid to stay home, here in this state.

The great thing about this state is that we have nearly as many Mazda cars running around, too. The mountains attract drivers who love corners, just as it attracts people who like to ski. And the best part is that there's more days of driving in the mountains than there are of skiing. Way more.

With the new Mazda 3 hitting showrooms in the next several months, Mazda's going to pick away at Subaru's lead. When the new Mazda 2 and Miata hit showrooms next year, they are going to start passing a few companies.

When the new Mazda 2 and Mazda 3 plant opens in Mexico, you will see production increase for both the Mazda 3 and Mazda 6, allowing them to go after even more market share. Right now, both vehicles are built in the same factory, which means they can only build so many of each, right now, and the Mazda 3 has always been the higher volume vehicle.

BC.
 
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They need to merge with someone again soon, if the Yen moves they drop with it.


Either a Indian or Chinese car maker would make the scoop to make inroads into other markets.
 
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It's the choice of vehicles for people who know they shouldn't be driving in bad weather, but are too stupid to stay home, here in this state.


LOL nice. Well I never owned a Subaru until a month ago and I'm enjoying it off road and in the flooding rain we've been having.
 
I too believe that Ford's control over Mazda in the US market hampered their progress over the years in the US.

They really do build a superior handling product, and the design is also on par with Honda and Toyota, and something else the value compared to those others is OUTSTANDING.


It might be in Mazda's interest to partner up with BMW they seem to be a good fit.

The reliability seems to be as good or better than Honda and Toyota. Personally we've had four Miata's in the family and NONE have ever had any major issues only basic maintenance items even though they are all very high mileage 150k +
 
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