May 2011 Auto Sales

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C Segment:
Chevrolet Cruze: 22,711
Ford Focus: 22,303
Hyundai Elantra: 20,006
Honda Civic: 18,341
Toyota Corolla: 16,985
VW Jetta: 16,671

Midsize:
Chevrolet Malibu: 25,600
Nissan Altima: 25,525
Ford Fusion: 24,666
Hyundai Sonata: 22,754
Toyota Camry: 18,830
Honda Accord: 18,185

B-Segment
Ford Fiesta: 7,120
Honda Fit: 5,921
Nissa Versa: 4,793
Chevrolet Aveo: 4,538
Kia Rio: 2,519
Toyota Yaris: 1,690

Compact Crossover :
Escape
Equinox
CR-V
Rav-4

Discuss. Also, the Cruze has been averaging transaction prices which are about $2,000 higher per unit than its competitors.
 
I'm glad to see some other players at the top. I'm not sure I like the Cruze as much as I once did, but everytime I see a new Focus, especially the 5-door hatch, I like it more and more.

I'm pleasantly surprised to see the Malibu and Fusion selling so well. They traditionally have not out-sold Camry or Accord.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Looks like Toyota has lost its sizzle.

For now. It may very well be an issue that is strictly supply-related. It remains to be seen, what effect the redesigned Camry and RAV4 will have on the sales numbers.

Part of the reason why the domestics are doing well right now is because they have the freshest line-up in the industry. Three years from now, when the domestics' products are nearing the end of their lifecycle, will tell the real story as to whether buyers have truly changed their view of the Big 3's products-- when their product will no longer be the fresh one.
 
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Looks like Toyota has lost its sizzle.

For now. It may very well be an issue that is strictly supply-related. It remains to be seen, what effect the redesigned Camry and RAV4 will have on the sales numbers.

Part of the reason why the domestics are doing well right now is because they have the freshest line-up in the industry. Three years from now, when the domestics' products are nearing the end of their lifecycle, will tell the real story as to whether buyers have truly changed their view of the Big 3's products-- when their product will no longer be the fresh one.


That is probably the case, although the recent slew of recalls might be on some buyers minds as well. I know the recalls are what stopped a few people I have spoken with from buying Toyota. Time will tell.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint

That is probably the case, although the recent slew of recalls might be on some buyers minds as well. I know the recalls are what stopped a few people I have spoken with from buying Toyota. Time will tell.


From what I have been told, recalls initially had a slight effect on Toyota prices at Manheim, but this is no longer the case.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: demarpaint

That is probably the case, although the recent slew of recalls might be on some buyers minds as well. I know the recalls are what stopped a few people I have spoken with from buying Toyota. Time will tell.


From what I have been told, recalls initially had a slight effect on Toyota prices at Manheim, but this is no longer the case.


They were a bit more negotiable on new car prices than in the past is what I heard. Either way it is good to see GM and Ford strong players in the game. OT used car prices have been pretty strong.
 
The Jetta and the Aveo are surprising to me.
The new, lower priced Jetta is poised to finish the year just 70K or so units behind the segment leaders, while the unrefined Aveo appears to be selling in pretty good numbers.
Are the relatively poor sales of some of the Japanese models related to supply problems?
I'm guessing that the low sales of the Yaris are related to lack of supply.
The same is probably true of the Camry and the Accord, as well as the Civic and the Corolla.
Still, many buyers apparently considered American brands serious alternatives, good news for Ford and GM.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
The Jetta and the Aveo are surprising to me.
The new, lower priced Jetta is poised to finish the year just 70K or so units behind the segment leaders, while the unrefined Aveo appears to be selling in pretty good numbers.
Are the relatively poor sales of some of the Japanese models related to supply problems?
I'm guessing that the low sales of the Yaris are related to lack of supply.
The same is probably true of the Camry and the Accord, as well as the Civic and the Corolla.
Still, many buyers apparently considered American brands serious alternatives, good news for Ford and GM.


I wonder about the Japanese supply issues too. Still, they arent really a better product from my evaluation in any segment, so this is more aligned with what reality should be.

Do the Japanese makers even compete on MPGs anymore??
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic


Part of the reason why the domestics are doing well right now is because they have the freshest line-up in the industry. Three years from now, when the domestics' products are nearing the end of their lifecycle, will tell the real story as to whether buyers have truly changed their view of the Big 3's products-- when their product will no longer be the fresh one.


This doesn't explain why the Malibu is out selling the Fusion and Sonata.

I also wish there were numbers for the small SUVs (maybe there were, but they aren't showing up). I don't believe that the Escape is out selling the Equinox, based on the rank order, but there are no numbers so...
 
I don't care what anyone says and usually I don't chime in on threads like this, but the Cruze is nice. Sit in one, drive one.
I couldn't believe how nice it was. Yesterday I drove to Mt Rainier to hike/climb to Camp Muir(different story, practicing for Summiting the moutain) and the guy that went with me has an 01 BMW 330I and told me he was seriously considering trading the 330 in on the Cruze. He said it was a lot of car and it was very smooth. You can say what you want but GM did a good job on this small car.
 
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: The Critic


Part of the reason why the domestics are doing well right now is because they have the freshest line-up in the industry. Three years from now, when the domestics' products are nearing the end of their lifecycle, will tell the real story as to whether buyers have truly changed their view of the Big 3's products-- when their product will no longer be the fresh one.


This doesn't explain why the Malibu is out selling the Fusion and Sonata.

I also wish there were numbers for the small SUVs (maybe there were, but they aren't showing up). I don't believe that the Escape is out selling the Equinox, based on the rank order, but there are no numbers so...


The malibu is fresh/new????!? Seems to me it is the same malibu that has been out for many years now.

Not saying it is a bad car. Just saying that it is in a top spot and I dont think it is a fresh model. Seems folks are liking it...
 
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
I don't care what anyone says and usually I don't chime in on threads like this, but the Cruze is nice. Sit in one, drive one.
I couldn't believe how nice it was. Yesterday I drove to Mt Rainier to hike/climb to Camp Muir(different story, practicing for Summiting the moutain) and the guy that went with me has an 01 BMW 330I and told me he was seriously considering trading the 330 in on the Cruze. He said it was a lot of car and it was very smooth. You can say what you want but GM did a good job on this small car.


I also like the Cruze a lot, the fact that it was designed by Deawoo doesn't exactly please me, but otherwise it's a nice looking car IMO, I see quite a lot of them around Toronto area. I still have to sit in one or drive it, so I won't pass judgment about interior or ride quality.

It's definitely nice to see something else in a sea of Corollas and Civics. Hatch Focus is not bad looking either.
 
My grandmother and I test drove a Cruze 1LT with the 1.4T engine. The interior was very well designed, and very well put together. The Turbo engine had tons of torque off the line, it has power from the word go. I definitely wouldn't mine one myself.
 
I know every area is different, but the Fiesta numbers suprised me - in my city at least (Ottawa), there aren't many on the road that I see.

Also, suprised there aren't any Mazda's on that list - Mazda 3 is almost the no. 1 selling compact in Canada, and the roads are THICK with them up here.
 
The Aveo and Malibu are likely to a large purchase of a rental company or fleet sales.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Looks like Toyota has lost its sizzle.



Well no wonder. A Corolla is a pretty boring car. And the others have more to offer in the same class.
 
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
The Jetta and the Aveo are surprising to me.
The new, lower priced Jetta is poised to finish the year just 70K or so units behind the segment leaders, while the unrefined Aveo appears to be selling in pretty good numbers.
Are the relatively poor sales of some of the Japanese models related to supply problems?
I'm guessing that the low sales of the Yaris are related to lack of supply.
The same is probably true of the Camry and the Accord, as well as the Civic and the Corolla.
Still, many buyers apparently considered American brands serious alternatives, good news for Ford and GM.



That new Jetta is ugly,and looks cheaply built to me. (imho) Now the new CC...thats a nice car.
 
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Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: The Critic


Part of the reason why the domestics are doing well right now is because they have the freshest line-up in the industry. Three years from now, when the domestics' products are nearing the end of their lifecycle, will tell the real story as to whether buyers have truly changed their view of the Big 3's products-- when their product will no longer be the fresh one.


This doesn't explain why the Malibu is out selling the Fusion and Sonata.

I also wish there were numbers for the small SUVs (maybe there were, but they aren't showing up). I don't believe that the Escape is out selling the Equinox, based on the rank order, but there are no numbers so...


The malibu is fresh/new????!? Seems to me it is the same malibu that has been out for many years now.



That is my point. The other poster's suggestion was that domestics are doing well because they have newer lineups. My point was that that argument doesn't support the Malibu being the best seller in its category since it is an older design.
 
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