Manual transmission shifting issue

[TFB1]

It's not a uncommon problem, especially with a older trans that may well have the reverse gears chipped slightly out on the nose of the tooth(teeth) and especially true if it's been raked into reverse a few times... I just keep pulling into reverse while easing out the clutch, works every time...

 

[ltslimjim]

The into first and then back through N for a slight pause before Reverse may help on some older apps.

I believe some cars above certain speeds or at speed do not allow the shifting into Reverse until the car has either had a move towards the first gear(faint audible click on some M/T Hondas) or into 1st gear all together before moving from a higher gear directly into R.

 

[mechtech2]

All the vehicles I have ever owned have been manuals and I have always shifted directly into reverse without any issues. No double clutching, no waiting for five seconds, no shifting into first and then into reverse.

With my present truck I shift into reverse the exact same way shift into first. Never an issue. [/quote

You are very lucky... believe me, your experience is not normal at all.
Tell me,how can a non synchronized gearset by as smooth to get into gear as a non syncho gearset?
If so, why bother with synchros for any gears??

 

[yonyon]

Originally Posted By: George7941
All the vehicles I have ever owned have been manuals and I have always shifted directly into reverse without any issues. No double clutching, no waiting for five seconds, no shifting into first and then into reverse.

With my present truck I shift into reverse the exact same way shift into first. Never an issue.


Have all your vehicles always had a shifter that goes right into the trans rather than using cables or other linkage? Have you always had a good healthy release bearing? I'd bet a shiny nickel the answer to both of those questions is yes.

 

[George7941]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Tell me,how can a non synchronized gearset by as smooth to get into gear as a non syncho gearset?
If so, why bother with synchros for any gears??

Non-synchronized gearsets can be as smooth because reverse is always engaged with the vehicle stationary, the output shaft is not spinning and the input shaft stops spinning when the clutch pedal is depressed (assuming healthy clutch and release/pilot bearings).

Re the question about cable linkages and healthy release bearings, the answer is "yes".

 

[mechtech2]

Reverse is always engaged?
No, it is not always engaged.
By far, the gears slide together to engage revers in manual transaxles.

 

[George7941]

Note the location of the comma, mechtech2. I am saying that one always shifts into reverse with the vehicle not moving at all, hence the output shaft is not spinning and once the clutch pedal is depressed, the input shaft stops spinning and now there are no rotating gears to clash.

 

[mechtech2]

Nice backpedal/save, but...
Note "reverse is always engaged".
This is wrong, so the end of discussion.

 

[George7941]

"reverse is always engaged with the vehicle stationary" = "you never engage reverse with the vehicle moving"