MANN made in Korea, any good?

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I was short a few € to get free shipping on my latest car parts order so decided to buy a MANN oil filter for my Colt.
Picked a MANN for a change, because I have 4 Purflux filters (made in France) in my stash, and I don't buy Mahle (made in Austria) filters anymore since the last one rusted on the inside within a few weeks (very disappointed).

Every time I bought a MANN filter, it was always made in Germany, and looked very good. Last time was in April. Then the one I received yesterday is made in Korea, very light, cheap looking, cheap feeling
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Is MANN relocating its production to Asia now? Is the inside of these filters any good?
Not sure I will actually use this filter, or is this me being paranoid?
 
Mann is Hyundai's OE supplier, and the OEM Hyundai Manns are made in Korea. They are excellent. Not sure about their aftermarket filters, though. But if in doubt, cut it open for us
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It sounds like your application is a spin-on filter, right? Terrible how the Austrian Mahle cans would rust inside so soon1 Were they NOS? The only rust problems I've had were with really old clearance filters, like an 8yo filter. Nothing less than a few years old had any rust problems.

Since Purflux and Mahle make their own filters for this car, it must be a reasonably popular application.

Hengst and Wix are also worth considering, if you can get them. Hopefully the Hengst is German, and the Wix is probably made in Poland.
 
What color is the can?

In the US, the white Mann filters are Purolator clones. The black ones are made in Germany and are a completely different design. Different can, base plate, ADBV and many more pleats.

Sad to hear you had a dud Mahle. I've always considered Mann and Mahle interchangeable.. I just pick Mahle because they are cheaper from Rock Auto.
 
No idea but its common that companies make parts for foreign cars in the region they come from. Mann filters for German cars in the US are still German made AFAIK.
Try a Mahle.
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Would a bit of rust inside actually hurt anything?


Depends of it's on the dirty side or clean side of the media. I wouldn't want any rust on the center tube because if any of that breaks loose it will go into the engine without being filtered. Even if there is rust on the outside, I won't use the filter just to be safe.
 
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
In the US, the white Mann filters are Purolator clones. The black ones are made in Germany and are a completely different design. Different can, base plate, ADBV and many more pleats.


Some of the US-made Purolator clones are painted black.

Also, the OP is in England, so he isn't getting the American Purolator clones. And some German Mann cans are white.

If it isn't OE for a Hyundai, the Korean Mann is probably like the STP/Pronto that Purolator makes in Korea.
 
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
In the US, the white Mann filters are Purolator clones. The black ones are made in Germany and are a completely different design. Different can, base plate, ADBV and many more pleats.


Some of the US-made Purolator clones are painted black.

Also, the OP is in England, so he isn't getting the American Purolator clones. And some German Mann cans are white.

If it isn't OE for a Hyundai, the Korean Mann is probably like the STP/Pronto that Purolator makes in Korea.


Where in my post did I say OP was getting American filters? Clearly the OP stated the filter was Korean made.

You may be correct on the colors, but I mentioned the design differences which I doubt are shared between the US's, Koreans, *Germans etc. which was clearly mentioned in the OP.

Also, your last sentence sums up the point I was getting at. Once again, different filters, difference COO's and was once again mentioned in the OP.
 
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Mann is Hyundai's OE supplier, and the OEM Hyundai Manns are made in Korea. They are excellent.

In the spin on must be, because in the cartridges Mahle is the Hyun/Kia OEM supplier and they too are made in S Korea. Wix/Napa Gold cartridges for H/K applications are also made in S Korea and are very high quality. At one time I thought Mobis made some Hyundai spin ons.

Without seeing the specific application, difficult to say definitively, but generally speaking the cartidges and even the spin ons like newer STP XL made in S Korea have looked well made.

I would not fear the Mann simply because of coo of S Korea.
 
For me if the filter looks cheap and light and was to get free shipping I wouldn't use it, especially when Purflux filters are lined up. I didn't know Mann made Hyundai filters, before people were showing the Hyundai stamp inside on the bypass and inferring they made them. Every time I go to the grocery store and see the $5-10 items I will eat, $5-10 filters look cheap considering they are used a long time.
 
I did not know mann made the Hyundai filter...How long has that been going on? And i may be wrong but i thought purolator was in that mix also.
 

The paint ob on the inscriptions looks sloppy too. Actually it looks pretty good on the inside.




Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
It sounds like your application is a spin-on filter, right? Terrible how the Austrian Mahle cans would rust inside so soon1 Were they NOS? The only rust problems I've had were with really old clearance filters, like an 8yo filter. Nothing less than a few years old had any rust problems.
Since Purflux and Mahle make their own filters for this car, it must be a reasonably popular application.

Hengst and Wix are also worth considering, if you can get them. Hopefully the Hengst is German, and the Wix is probably made in Poland.


Yes, it is a spin on filter (the 4 cars in my sig use spin on filters). The rusted Mahle were only rusted on the inside (outside was perfect). Not completely rusted, but still rusted, on the "exterior part of the inside" and on the inside itself (only a bit). They weren't rusted when I received them, but when I used them (several weeks/months later) they were all rusted. Different models (OC983, OC272 and OC495), used within a 5 months interval. And yes, I used them all, but for short OCI only. Oh, and they were stored in my filter drawer, inside my house.
I can get Hengst but not Wix (or not easily), maybe I'll try a Hengst next time.

Originally Posted By: Trav
No idea but its common that companies make parts for foreign cars in the region they come from. Mann filters for German cars in the US are still German made AFAIK. Try a Mahle.

Not sure I'd like to try Mahle anymore!

I bought filters in advance for all my cars and for family/friends for years, and this is the first time I got a MANN made in Korea. Mahle were consistently made in Austria, Purflux made in France (or Slovenia for cabin filters, lol), MANN made in Germany, and the OEM one (used to be made in Italy for the Fiats, now made in China so I don't buy them anymore). OEM for the Smart is MANN made in Germany, and after looking into it, it seems OEM for the Mitsubishi is I think Denso, probably made in Korea too, but never bought some...so maybe MANN decided to buy directly from Denso and rebadge? But the last Mistubishi OEM I saw (installed by dealer) was very well made and very heavy, and this one is quite light, albeit I have to admit good looking on the inside.

[/OT] Pretty happy Purflux went from flat o-rings to round o-rings for this application (LS489A), flat one tend to stick. Hopefully they'll made the same change for other applications I'm using.
 
Looks like it could be a reboxed OEM filter. The cheap jobber Korean cans don't typically use the round O-ring for a gasket. If you're still skeptical, cut it open for us
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I'll use it for a short OCI, then cut it open
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I don't remember the OEM having the red abdv...I guess now I have to go to the Mitsu dealer to buy an oil filter!
 
That looks exactly like the Hyundai/Kia OEM Filters, except painted black instead of blue. If it's is the same, it's an excellent filter.



 
Originally Posted By: Popsy
I don't remember the OEM having the red abdv.


The red ADBV is a good thing. That means it's silicone instead of regular rubber. Most higher end filters have silicone ADBVs, while lower end filters have regular black rubber ADBVs.
 
Didn't know red ADBV was a good sign, thought the exact contrary (red rubber is quite common here)! What about white ADBV ?

Well the MANN has 6 holes in the exterior plate, the Hyundai OEM has 5, but they look quite similar.

I think I'm going to go buy an OEM Mitsubishi and report back. In the meantime, I'm quite confident it is at least a decent filter.

Thank you guys for reassuring me.


PS: do you think the zig zag pleats of the Purflux make it a better filter? I've seen some open, they look very nice on the inside. But it's the only brand doing that...
 
Originally Posted By: Popsy
Didn't know red ADBV was a good sign, thought the exact contrary (red rubber is quite common here)! What about white ADBV ?


White ADBV is silicone. Seems black ADBV is usually nitrile rubber ... and any other color is usually silicone.
 
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