It looks like the front left wheel locks up at time 0:31. Probably due to active handling activated and trying to correct an out of control situation - ?.
Mach E fails moose test
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It looks like the front left wheel locks up at time 0:31. Probably due to active handling activated and trying to correct an out of control situation - ?.
Nick1994
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Meh, I’d like to see it run with a different driver.
Isn't that the Ford RSC (Roll Stability Control) in action? When that came out way back in the day I recall watching a video saying it will lock up certain brakes to promote skidding vs the car rolling over.
SUV's and crossovers have a generally high center of gravity and soft suspension which makes them poor performers in this kind of test. It's just plain physics a SUV or a truck is much more likely to roll over than a car. For instance in this video if the dummy in the Challenger hit a Civic or any other car the results would be much different.
This is an EV. EVs have low center of gravity due to the pig heavy battery.
And actually for some gassers converted to EV the low slung battery makes them handle even better......the 60/40 front heavy Golf gasser slides to a near 50/50 split in E-Golf form. I bet if I tossed the Bridgestone Ecopia's for something stickier I could probably out handle a regular Golf TSI.
Ill bet money it has a large effect on what tires are on it for the mach/tesla, and how the programing is for the ESP. Any vehicle with esp, I have found a HUGE difference is how they react to a rapid transition like that. ......some are not very good at all. Throw in soft/non perf tires and its an issue. As for the jeep test here, the big thing with the jeep, especially that vintage, is they had a VERY soft suspension setup(look at much it leans and bounces!!), for ride comfort, and good articulation offroad.......always a tradeoff. And most came with crap goodyear LS rubber.
an SUV ev still has a higher COG than a regular car, and the mass isn't concentrated so inertia is bigger. And of course there's more mass.
Roll-over protection. Vans and suv's can come with that. Porsche SUVs are pretty agressive in roll-over protection.
Judging by the amount of “OMG YOU DRIVE A RWD CAR IN THE SNOW THAT’S SO DANGEROUS!!!!” remarks I got when I had my Chrysler 300, I’m assuming most people just slam the brakes and start praying instead of counter steering.
My 13 rav 4 would smoke that test.
I had a 2007 Chrysler 300 rwd that car was remarkably stable in snow and adverse conditions. Then again it is a poor man’s e class lol
No mooses were harmed in this video... Meeses?
It's still a tall goofy looking crossover with a raised suspension, all those things work against it in the moose test. The Mercedes A class that made the test famous was also tall with the added disadvantage of a short wheelbase.
I believe the Tesla Modey Y and Hyundai Ionic5 aced the moose test.
Reviews of the Mach-E are overall very positive. Give it better rubber and it will probably be fine.
While I ain't buying one, I am sure owners will love their electric 'Stangs.
This is a moose, you’re not running into a moose and surviving unless maybe if you’re in a class 8 truck. But even then moose (not sure the plural tempted to say “meese”for laughs) are like walking buildings.
This is why I like my little lightweight Accent, always fun when they tear off the pavement and I have to maneuver around the exposed manhole covers and natural gas access pipes while my passenger in the back frantically tries to keep their bags from spilling everywhere!
Suspension tuning. Reminds of the sleepy eyed, pop up headlight Nissan 300 ZX. Suspension compresses and releases it's energy abruptly causing all sorts of messes with suspension geometry and weight transfer as the vehicle pogos. In this case add significant weight, low down, and the forces are acting on the suspension with some harsh angles. Now make sure the ride is smooth while offering big wheel(more unsprung weight)packages. Maybe tires that slide a little earlier would help.
I'm sure everyone doesn't die when they hit meese. I was just pointing out that jerking the wheel and trying to veer around critters usually causes crashes. I knew a guy who hit an elk at night time(at speed) with his Geo metro and woke up in the ER. The car swept its legs out and it landed on the roof, crushing it and blowing the windows out. Plenty of elk between Payson and Snowflake. I see them here on I-40 (laying on the side of the road dead) all the time. Flagstaff-Williams, Plenty of vehicles here with different color hoods and fenders also. It makes me wonder about people riding street bikes up here.
You are correct regarding evasion I was incorrect. New advisory is to steer behind the moose or brake in a straight line since moose tend to continue walking in the same direction at a steady pace.
Moose test is more for children darting out into the road these days.
Here is a source, you’ll need Swedish translate.
https://korkortonline.se/teori/olyckor/
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