M15W30 vs M15W30T&SUV?

[spm1us]

Hello All, I was in WalMart yesterday and saw both 5 qt jugs on the shelf for the same price @ $20.87/jug. Can anyone please tell me the specific difference between the regular M1 5W30 and the M1 5W30T&SUV oils??? I can't decipher the propaganda on the M1 site. If they're both the same price, does one offer any additional benefits/protection??? Thanks for your help!

 

[AndyH]

At this time I think all we really know is what Mobil tells us on their site. A VOA has not yet been performed on the Mobil 1 T&SUV 5w30.

 

[farrarfan1]

Mobil's website shows the new T&SUV as meeting A1/B1 and A5/B5 but the containers I looked at only list A1/B1. The T&SUV doesn't meet GM 4718M (Corvette) specs, or at least they don't display it on the website or containers.Who knows?

 

[Triple_Se7en]

T&SUV = trucks & sport utlity vehicles
regular M-1 = all others
EP = longer, extended drains

If you have a car - but drive it/use it like a truck, you want the T&SUV.

That what I interpret from these three oils.

 

[ebaker]

The guy I talked to on the Mobil hot line said the T&SUV was "very similar" to plain M1 5w30.

 

[Blue99]

As of today, we really know very little about this formulation - additive package, viscosity, etc.

The certifications listed on the new Mobil 1 5w30 TSUV webpage are a bit of a puzzle.

The API SM & ILSAC GF-4 spec's are not listed, yet the Ford WSS-M2C929-A spec is.

The Ford 5w30 spec requires that all the GF-4 tests are met, with a tighter limit on some of the sequence VG wear tests.

This means that M1 5w30 TSUV meets the 800 ppm max on ZDDP/Phosphorus and the energy conserving fuel economy spec.

So, it could be that API & ILSAC are just slow in the paperwork process of granting the approvals.

Regardless, the M1 5w30 TSUV formulation will probably more resemble the regular/standard formulation than either the EP 5w30, or the previous 5W-40 TSUV, which was a Delvac style formulation.