Lubegard question

[Rtstrider]

My buddy has a Camaro that uses Dexron III transmission fluid. We are doing a pan drop, gasket/filter change tonight. Which Lubegard bottle should we get to help smooth out shifting? The shifting's not rough, but he just wants less slipping...Any suggestions? I'm debating between the Red and Black bottles

 

[jarvk22]

Lubegard RED.

 

[tackleberry625]

yup, the red one. That's what I put in my Tundra about a month or so ago.

 

[Rtstrider]

What's the difference between the two other than the black converts atf?

 

[tackleberry625]

I think the black one converts regular ATF to a special ATF that is used in some Hondas and other import cars

 

[Whitewolf]

It can't 'convert' the chemistries in many cases are totally different.

 

[tackleberry625]

In a manner of speaking it can. Its adds the proper additives to make the ATF "approved" by that manufacture. Look at the back of LG's power steering additive sometime. It says on there by adding that ps additive to your "regular" ps fluid, makes it "Honda approved."

 

[bruce381]

""It says on there by adding that ps additive to your "regular" ps fluid, makes it "Honda approved."

Sorry no way that would be "honda approved" as in warranty etc
perhaps useable but NOT approved
bruce

 

[mikered30]

Does the RED actually work and is there any product that compares to it?

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: tackleberry625
In a manner of speaking it can. Its adds the proper additives to make the ATF "approved" by that manufacture.

The fluid can only be an approved service fill if it has gone through the OEM's fluid testing program, passed, and was issued a license.

Besides, the whole concept of adding juice to a fluid to turn it into a fluid that will perform similarly as the OE fill is baloney. It may shift the same, but it certainly won't perform the same in all ways.

 

[tackleberry625]

Sorry that's what I meant. I meant that it is usable in Honda vehicles. I shouldn't have used the "approved" word.

 

[WishIhadatruck]

Why not just buy the proper fluid? I can see the quick lube places doing this so they don't have to stock so many different fluids but for the individual it would make more sense to me to just buy the correct fluid. Am I missing something?

 

[BarkerMan]

If you have questions about LubeGuard products call the number on the web site in Seattle but ask for technical help in Texas. The guy that will answer your call is a lab engineer with over 20 years experience in the lubrication field. LubeGuard makes great products and it all started with a guy named Landis, the architect of the original Mobil 1 synthetic oil, not the new improved(?) formulation. Robert is very straight forward with his advise and has a lot of knowledge about fluids and their performance in both the lab and on the road.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: BarkerMan
If you have questions about LubeGuard products call the number on the web site in Seattle but ask for technical help in Texas. The guy that will answer your call is a lab engineer with over 20 years experience in the lubrication field. LubeGuard makes great products and it all started with a guy named Landis, the architect of the original Mobil 1 synthetic oil, not the new improved(?) formulation. Robert is very straight forward with his advise and has a lot of knowledge about fluids and their performance in both the lab and on the road.


Is there a separate tech group in Seattle??
When I called for tech info (about their oil suppliment) I did not ask to speak to Texas.
The people I did speak to seemed to have forgotten way more than I'll ever know about this stuff.
BUT, I was a little disconcerted that they had NEVER heard of the P.O.E.s that make up at least some of Red Line's base stock.
This seemed strange to me that tribologists/chemical engineers with that much experience did not know about these.

 

[unDummy]

For slippage, don't expect any fluid to fix this.
For shudder or shift quality issues, then a complete flush with new ATF should be considered. A pan drop is only a partial change.

Simple upgrade to Mercon-V, Dexron-VI, or any full synthetic, and no additive is needed.

If you're sticking with some store brand or leftover dex/merc, then definitely consider the Lubegard or Smartblend "red" products. There are similar 'other brand' equivalents.

 

[rkpatt]

I think that Lubegard red actually does extend the life of ATF . Since I have been using it, the ATF does not have any hint of the "burn't" odor or loss of the bright fresh ATF color . That is enough to convince me to continue using it at every change.

BTW , I am getting ready to replace the ATF in a Honda . I will use Valvoline MaxLife (just because label states ZF1 compatible ) and adding Lubegard red (vs using Lubegard black or Platium and Dexron III)

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:
Does the RED actually work and is there any product that compares to it?



http://www.lifeautomotive.com/Products/ATfluidprotectants.asp

 

[benjamming]

Mola,

Any thoughts on their products and how it compares to others?

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: Rtstrider
My buddy has a Camaro that uses Dexron III transmission fluid. We are doing a pan drop, gasket/filter change tonight. Which Lubegard bottle should we get to help smooth out shifting? The shifting's not rough, but he just wants less slipping...Any suggestions? I'm debating between the Red and Black bottles

Use DEX 6 and forget the LG

 

[Rolf]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
BUT, I was a little disconcerted that they had NEVER heard of the P.O.E.s that make up at least some of Red Line's base stock.


If you look up their patents, you'll see them a number of them are for unique esterized vegetable oils like jojobo.

Red Line buys stocks and additives on the open market. None of them are relevant to anything the LubeGard folks are doing.