Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Can somebody describe what we are looking at? Lubegard products are regarded highly, is this a legit product?
http://lubegard.com/C-180/LUBEGARD+BIO-TECH+Engine+Oil+Protectant
Have an oil sample report with this product coming. Stay tuned!
Looks great!
Nice boost to phosphorus, calcium, moly, and TBN as a result.
Boron in that amount is pretty much negligible once added to 4 quarts of oil, etc. As are any numbers lower. Such as sodium. Enough to spike a typical UOA by what...5-10 ppm, if that?
This will boost moly at least 150, calcium and phosphorous another 300 in most typical UOA we see.
Wow, you chaps really have no clue how the add pack of a good quality major brand oil functions. Every additive that helps to protect an engine in wear terms or helps keep an engine clean, produces some kind of undesirable side effect. It might be a direct side effect like corrosion or deposits in the exhaust system, or it could be a case of interfering with the function of one of the other additives.
Liqui Moly have moved on as a company and their best high tech synthoils don't contain Moly and produce better results in wear and deposit analysis terms than the Moly containing oils.
The final add pack of a top quality major brand dino or full synthetic involves a balancing act between the various additives that takes a group of expert oil chemists quite a while to develop, so the idea that throwing in a can of extra additives is going to improve the performance of the oil is nuts.
I've looked at numerous UOA results of various oil additives and have never seen a good result from adding anything other than top up oil (Unless the oil used was a supermarket El cheapo special. I did think LM Ceretec might help, as the UOA results did seem to be slightly better, but after checking some longer term results in Germany, I am now suspitious it swaps bottom end for top end wear figures.
If you really want to improve the performance of your oil, then don't waste money on additives, just learn how to drive for max engine life, use the best oil filter and then do a few UOA's to figure out the best OCI. Then fit a good pre heater to reduce cold start wear.