Lately I lost my horn and cruise control, and the airbag light(red) on the dashboard came on, seemingly all at about the same time, although didn't notice exactly the timing of it all. Vehicle is a '98 Plymouth minivan. Any suggestions as to what is the problem? Thanks for any and all ideas.
lost horn, cruise control; gained airbag light
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Check the fuses first.
possible clockspring issue.
Originally Posted By: yeti
possible clockspring issue.
Good call, its common on the Chryco vans.
possible clockspring issue.
Good call, its common on the Chryco vans.
Thanks for the tips. Seemes like it might possibly all be related to same thing.
Originally Posted By: yeti
possible clockspring issue.
+1
Call a dealer with Vin# I am positive there was a recall on those minivans for that very issue.
possible clockspring issue.
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Call a dealer with Vin# I am positive there was a recall on those minivans for that very issue.
yup. TSB and possible recall on the clockspring.
you guys are good!!!
SIR Coil, sometimes called a "Clock spring" It is the wire that allows the controls on the steering wheel, and the Air bag to be connected to the rest of the car. There was a TSB for this a few years ago. There may even have been a campaign. I recall hearing about a lot of these in and around 2001 when I worked a Chrysler dealer.
Yes there was a recall on this.. A very common problem.... There was another post about this problem and I posted the recall number....
With all three, that's about as close as you can get to a sure clockspring diagnosis...
Originally Posted By: foresthawk
Lately I lost my horn and cruise control, and the airbag light(red) on the dashboard came on, seemingly all at about the same time, although didn't notice exactly the timing of it all. Vehicle is a '98 Plymouth minivan. Any suggestions as to what is the problem? Thanks for any and all ideas.
In a Ford it would be the clock spring, I have a feeling it is the same for Chrysler too.
Lately I lost my horn and cruise control, and the airbag light(red) on the dashboard came on, seemingly all at about the same time, although didn't notice exactly the timing of it all. Vehicle is a '98 Plymouth minivan. Any suggestions as to what is the problem? Thanks for any and all ideas.
In a Ford it would be the clock spring, I have a feeling it is the same for Chrysler too.
Recall 04V480000: Air Bag Clockspring Replacement
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
Chrysler / Town and Country 1998-2000
Dodge / Caravan 1998-2000
Dodge / Grand Caravan 1998-2000
Plymouth / Grand Voyager 1998-2000
Plymouth / Voyager 1998-2000
MANUFACTURER: DaimlerChrysler Corporation
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V480000 Recall Date : OCT 05, 2004
COMPONENT: Air Bags
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 955344
SUMMARY:
On certain minivans, the driver's air bag may become disabled due to a failure of the clockspring, which is located in the hub of the steering wheel.
CONSEQUENCE:
This condition will manifest itself through illumination of the air bag warning lamp, and could eventually result in a driver's air bag open circuit, if the part is not replaced in a reasonable amount of time.
REMEDY:
Dealers will replace the clockspring assembly on all covered vehicles with 70,000 miles or less. FOR THOSE VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 70,000 MILES, DaimlerChrysler will offer an extended lifetime warranty under which it will replace the clockspring at no charge if it fails. DaimlerChrysler will also reimburse owners who have paid to have the clockspring replaced on their vehicles. The recall began on October 12, 2004. Owners should contact DaimlerChrysler at 1-800-853-1403.
NOTES:
DaimlerChrysler Recall NO. D17. Customers can contact The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Auto Safety Hotline at 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
Chrysler / Town and Country 1998-2000
Dodge / Caravan 1998-2000
Dodge / Grand Caravan 1998-2000
Plymouth / Grand Voyager 1998-2000
Plymouth / Voyager 1998-2000
MANUFACTURER: DaimlerChrysler Corporation
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V480000 Recall Date : OCT 05, 2004
COMPONENT: Air Bags
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 955344
SUMMARY:
On certain minivans, the driver's air bag may become disabled due to a failure of the clockspring, which is located in the hub of the steering wheel.
CONSEQUENCE:
This condition will manifest itself through illumination of the air bag warning lamp, and could eventually result in a driver's air bag open circuit, if the part is not replaced in a reasonable amount of time.
REMEDY:
Dealers will replace the clockspring assembly on all covered vehicles with 70,000 miles or less. FOR THOSE VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 70,000 MILES, DaimlerChrysler will offer an extended lifetime warranty under which it will replace the clockspring at no charge if it fails. DaimlerChrysler will also reimburse owners who have paid to have the clockspring replaced on their vehicles. The recall began on October 12, 2004. Owners should contact DaimlerChrysler at 1-800-853-1403.
NOTES:
DaimlerChrysler Recall NO. D17. Customers can contact The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Auto Safety Hotline at 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).
Case Closed.....
The clockspring keep a solid electrical connection to the steering wheel. It is what is says, like a big clockspring.
Old common systems used a brass ring and spring loaded carbon contact. This is not good enough for the new air bag systems .
Fuses fist, then call the dealer. If they balk, remind them that this is a safety device that is in issue.
Old common systems used a brass ring and spring loaded carbon contact. This is not good enough for the new air bag systems .
Fuses fist, then call the dealer. If they balk, remind them that this is a safety device that is in issue.
You can buy a used clockspring from a junkyard search engine like car-part.com.
I used to buy them all the time for customers.
But that might leave you with the same problem down the road with a defective OEM part.
I used to buy them all the time for customers.
But that might leave you with the same problem down the road with a defective OEM part.
Yup, my wifes 01 T&C had to get a new clockspring last summer. Darn thing cost me around $150 since our van was made 1 or 2 months after all the ones recalled.
In the last few weeks I've had the same issue with my '97 voyager. Airbag light was on and off, and now is on all the time and the horn doesn't work either. My vehicle is covered under the recall and I called the local dodge dealer this week to schedule a time to bring it in. They told me "the part is on back order and ... derrr ..." I said "can you get the part and let me know when it comes in???" They said "uhh sure" and transfered me to parts who put me on hold until I got tired of waiting and hung up. I will call back this week and try to get this part ordered or see what they can tell me. I don't think dealers are too interested in resolving issues on '97 vehicles from a bankrupt company. I will update the thread if i learn anything else.
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