Looks like the Cooper CS4 had a kid...

[daves87rs]

and they are calling it the CS3. It's replacing the Lifeliner tire, as it sounds like it is like the CS4, but much lighter (with special sidewall Stiffness, I gather)

If it really handles like the cs4 but offers better mpgs as they say, it could be a winner...

I didn't even know they had this tire at SEMA.. I happened to stumble on this while searching tires for my nieghbor's Fusion....

http://www.tirereview.com/Article/106621/cooper_shows_new_tires_shares_rd_goals.aspx

 

[The Critic]

So we have yet another entry-level tire for the chain auto shops, interesting. I wonder if Sears will private-label a version for themselves.

While we're on the topic of new tires, I am quite excited about the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 which will be launching in the summer.

 

[simple_gifts]

Who said it was entry level? Looks like CS3 is incorporating their recent technologies into a new line.

 

[Kira]

Hello, The blurb said, "58T, S and V ratings". If I remember correctly isn't the number part of the rating directly related to weight capacity? Tires have 87 through 105 ratings in my world (consumer automotive). This is either a typo or a real cheap tire. Correct me if I'm wrong here please. Kira

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: The Critic

While we're on the topic of new tires, I am quite excited about the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 which will be launching in the summer.


For a Prius??

 

[Papa Bear]

"Cooper’s innovation continues, in part, through two recently-awarded grants. The first, $1.5 million from the U.S. Department of Energy,.......The second grant, $6.9 million from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "

 

[daves87rs]

Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
"Cooper’s innovation continues, in part, through two recently-awarded grants. The first, $1.5 million from the U.S. Department of Energy,.......The second grant, $6.9 million from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "

Eh, everybody gets those for trying to go green anyways...

 

[daves87rs]

Originally Posted By: Kira
Hello, The blurb said, "58T, S and V ratings". If I remember correctly isn't the number part of the rating directly related to weight capacity? Tires have 87 through 105 ratings in my world (consumer automotive). This is either a typo or a real cheap tire. Correct me if I'm wrong here please. Kira


I'm thinking priced above the current Lifeliner, but below the CS4.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
"Cooper’s innovation continues, in part, through two recently-awarded grants. The first, $1.5 million from the U.S. Department of Energy,.......The second grant, $6.9 million from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "

The goals of those grants are laudable. Better fuel efficiency and a domestic source of natural rubber. Good to see some investment in a US company keeping jobs here in the USA.

Waiting on reviews on these. The CS4's got generally good reviews, and are pretty popular around here.

Also, I believe the article said T, H, and V speed ratings. That covers a lot of cars.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: The Critic

While we're on the topic of new tires, I am quite excited about the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 which will be launching in the summer.


For a Prius??


They are making them for sizes as small as 13", so I suspect that it is going to be a very mainstream tire. Any car deserves quality rubber.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: The Critic

While we're on the topic of new tires, I am quite excited about the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 which will be launching in the summer.


For a Prius??


No reason why not to have a fairly fuel-efficient car that handles well. If one's not out for max MPG's, might as well have a bit of fun with the car.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: Kira
Hello, The blurb said, "58T, S and V ratings". If I remember correctly isn't the number part of the rating directly related to weight capacity? Tires have 87 through 105 ratings in my world (consumer automotive). This is either a typo or a real cheap tire. Correct me if I'm wrong here please. Kira


There's a space. They're making 58 different catalog numbers. Maybe not 58 sizes if there are duplications in size with different speed and load ratings.

I like the traditional tread pattern. Figure this will be a semi-cheap tire. Hope it performs.

 

[4ever4d]

Tread pattern hasn't changed much from the Lifeliner i suspect it will not perform to the level of the CS4.

 

[HWEaton]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
So we have yet another entry-level tire for the chain auto shops, interesting. I wonder if Sears will private-label a version for themselves.

While we're on the topic of new tires, I am quite excited about the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 which will be launching in the summer.


The Trendsetter is still the entry level tire for now.

 

[Finklejag]

Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
"Cooper’s innovation continues, in part, through two recently-awarded grants. The first, $1.5 million from the U.S. Department of Energy,.......The second grant, $6.9 million from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "

I read that, then remembered reading that a lot of the Cooper production is moving to China.

 

[Ken2]

That article also mentions Cooper's Mastercraft line. Does anyone know for sure if Cooper puts the same quality into their other brands--Mastercraft, Dean, and Starfire--as they put into the Cooper brand? I spoke with a Cooper rep one time, and all he'd say, very carefully, was that they were made in the same factory. Or are these brands produced for lower price points using shorter lived rubber compounds or other ways to cut costs?

I've had good results with the CS4, and may consider a Discoverer CTS for a different car in the future.

 

[SatinSilver]

The new Camrys and Accords come standard with 205/65/16's. The only tire that Cooper carries in that size is their snow tire. Hopefully, this model tire will come in that size. Maybe even the CS4 down the road sometime.

 

[daves87rs]

Originally Posted By: Ken2
That article also mentions Cooper's Mastercraft line. Does anyone know for sure if Cooper puts the same quality into their other brands--Mastercraft, Dean, and Starfire--as they put into the Cooper brand? I spoke with a Cooper rep one time, and all he'd say, very carefully, was that they were made in the same factory. Or are these brands produced for lower price points using shorter lived rubber compounds or other ways to cut costs?

I've had good results with the CS4, and may consider a Discoverer CTS for a different car in the future.



It's the same quality. They build multiple brands to keep the costs down.

 

[durallymax]

Originally Posted By: Ken2
That article also mentions Cooper's Mastercraft line. Does anyone know for sure if Cooper puts the same quality into their other brands--Mastercraft, Dean, and Starfire--as they put into the Cooper brand? I spoke with a Cooper rep one time, and all he'd say, very carefully, was that they were made in the same factory. Or are these brands produced for lower price points using shorter lived rubber compounds or other ways to cut costs?

I've had good results with the CS4, and may consider a Discoverer CTS for a different car in the future.


A lot of the trucks that come in have their coursers on. One local small tire shop pushes them hard because they are cheap. They push everything thats cheap and most of the area is farmers or low to mid income housholds so thats what they want. What I usually notice is poor irregular tread wear, but other than the rounded off overtightened lugs from the shop that does them, It sounds like the guys like how they perform compared to the other cheap tires they had before like Daytons and such.

 

[FordFocus]

any updated word on when these will be available? The local Cooper distributor tells me spring and that's it. my sister's car needs tires and I might go with cs4 again on her car but I really would like to try out this new model