Looking for An Amsoil Education

[Shrike9]

I’m clueless about Amsoil other than all the fanboy anecdotal stories all over the internet & don’t know anyone in real life who runs it

Please take the time to educate me, I’ve been learning lots but amsoil information is spread all around and it gets confusing bouncing back and forth

Amsoil is constantly among the highest recorded oil here

We have 3 vehicles

22 F250 with the 7.3L Godzilla 49k miles short trips to high speed desert running in southern AZ to Moab in July

22 Bronco Sport with the 1.5L EcoBoost roughly 20k miles, short 3-7 mile trips with the occasional
highway trip

26 Explorer with the 2.3L EcoBoost, brand spanking new, short trips to long roadtrips

Weather at home goes from -20 to mid 90’s not much humidity but can be really dusty

Offspring in Northern Wyoming has a 2017 F150 with the 3.5L and 75k miles it gets more colder with more snow and quite a bit more dusty down there & goes from short 3-5 mile trips to the monthly 200 mile trip

I’m open to learning about Amsoil from the hive mind here as it’s way more knowledge based and less emotional “cuz it’s the best” kind of garbage that turned me off on it to begin with

 

[relentless044]

I use 5w30 ss in my 24 f250 7.3, my 22 bronco 2.7 and my 02 nissan 3.3
Not sure if you're looking for bang for your buck its the go to, especially if not running extended oci's.
In the 2.7, it seems quieter, gets a tad better mpg, I figure its above average resistance to shearing is gonna help with fuel dillution in the dual injection engine, I'm yet to do a used oil analysis on this engine/truck as its on its first amsoil service.
In the 7.3, I use it because I figure an oil that is very sheer stable, has fantastic flow characteristics may help me avoid the dreaded cam/lifter failures that a few see with this engine. The nissan literally gets it cause that oil change I had to do anyway helps me get the $500 in a year for free preferred customer status. I like that despite recent reductions in additives to keep the epa happy amsoil still dumps plenty in, and yeah, its expensive, but I'd much rather enjoy a samuel adams than a mickeys when its time to relax, heres a used oil analysis I did on the ss 5w30

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Thread 'New Oil Analysis - AMSOIL Signature Series 5w30'

Feb 9, 2024

this is the oil I've chosen to run in my 2023 mustang gt
figured a voa was in orderView attachment 202676

• relentless044
• Replies: 50
• Forum: Virgin Oil Analysis - PCMO/HDEO

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[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

Here you go:



This video series has some pretty good behind-the-scenes info on Amsoil.

 

[ClutchDisc]

I run it in my Forester, Sienna, and my Elantra. Will be switching the transmissions on the Forester and Sienna over to Amsoil ATF in the near future (Elantra already has the Amsoil ATF). I also run the severe gear lube in both differentials on the Forester. I see no reason to run anything else. I want the best for my vehicles because I keep my vehicles forever.

 

[Shrike9]

Not concerned with cost & have not thought much about extended drain intervals, primary concern is longevity of the vehicle & motor

Went and changed plugs in the truck already & am running NGK RUTHENIUM plugs & noticed smoother idling

Extended drain could be an advantage for long distance road trips

Will be doing a transmission flush/fill and possibly a larger transmission pan at the spring oil change (running Mobil 1 currently) and changing the differentials & transfer case

 

[rstsco]

Calling @Pablo!

I've been running Amsoil for literally 50 years, shortly after the company released the first full-synthetic passenger car motor oil (PCMO). Throughout these years, Amsoil has not rested on their laurels. The majority of complaints about Amsoil has to do with their multi-level marketing, not their products. If you choose to use their products, definitely sign up as a preferred customer, which Pablo can help with.

Over the years, I've run their products in cars, pickups, motorcycles, and pretty much anything with a gasoline engine. I've never had an engine failure in anything it's been used in. Their products are an investment in your vehicles' future. Considering where you and the family live, it's also a good match.

Is Amsoil all teddy bears, rainbows, and unicorns... no. I do not like their current batch of EA15K13 oil filters used in our 2025 Honda Pilot (and almost all Hondas and many other vehicles), but instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water, I've only thrown out those filters and still running their Signature Series oil, which first went into the Pilot at 500 miles.

I've drank the HPL Kool-Aid and have 5 cases of their Premium-Plus Passenger Car Motor Oil (PPPCMO) upstairs in a spare bedroom, enough to last me for several years, but still have enough remaining Amsoil on the shelf for two more oil changes and see no reason to not continue using it before making the switch to the HPL. I plan on this Pilot being the last vehicle my wife and I will own before we hang up our drivers' licenses, or should (God willing and the creeks don't rise), so I want to give it the same care I've given all my vehicles over the years. I know Amsoil can and will do the job, and also believe HPL will do the same.

I'm not one who believes in squeezing every drop of additive from an oil before changing it, but rather feed, and have fed, my vehicles over the years what I perceive, and personal experience has shown me, one of the best products available. Then again, it could just be all their marketing hype has turned my brain to mush (which my wife will happily attest to).

If you don't plan on keeping your vehicles for many years and/or running extended drain intervals, there are many good oils you can pick up at Walmart or other big-box stores for a fraction of the cost, a few of which have stellar reputations.

As always, your mileage may vary. Good luck on your decision-making process.

 

[Pablo]

I’m clueless about Amsoil other than all the fanboy anecdotal stories all over the internet & don’t know anyone in real life who runs it

Please take the time to educate me, I’ve been learning lots but amsoil information is spread all around and it gets confusing bouncing back and forth

Amsoil is constantly among the highest recorded oil here

We have 3 vehicles

22 F250 with the 7.3L Godzilla 49k miles short trips to high speed desert running in southern AZ to Moab in July

22 Bronco Sport with the 1.5L EcoBoost roughly 20k miles, short 3-7 mile trips with the occasional
highway trip

26 Explorer with the 2.3L EcoBoost, brand spanking new, short trips to long roadtrips

Weather at home goes from -20 to mid 90’s not much humidity but can be really dusty

Offspring in Northern Wyoming has a 2017 F150 with the 3.5L and 75k miles it gets more colder with more snow and quite a bit more dusty down there & goes from short 3-5 mile trips to the monthly 200 mile trip

I’m open to learning about Amsoil from the hive mind here as it’s way more knowledge based and less emotional “cuz it’s the best” kind of garbage that turned me off on it to begin with

I'm sure Amsoil 5W-30 SS would be great for all of them year 'round, but seriously 10W-30 in the summer for the F250 beast!

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-5w-30-100-synthetic-motor-oil-asl/?zo=515729

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-10w-30-100-synthetic-high-mileage-motor-oil-hm1030/?zo=515729

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-10w-30-100-synthetic-motor-oil-atm/?zo=515729

https://www.amsoil.com/offers/pc/?zo=515729

 

[wings&wheels]

Thanks for this thread, I truly need to research Amsoil more. Following...

I am one that was so disgusted and put off by early marketing efforts, back in the late 90's/early 00's when every search for "quality oil", "synthetic oil" or similar invariably led to a flashy web page replete with "studies" showing Amsoil on top, quoting an "FTC letter" to other oil companies saying not to use "best" anymore (a favorite as the FTC doesn't really do that), etc., all by dealers. I found Redline and never looked back.

Thanks to BITOG, especially some of the respected opinions here, time to toss the bias and do some reading. Maybe you can teach an old dog.....

 

[SC Maintenance]

10W-30 in the summer for the F250 beast!

OK, i'll bite. Why? Lower shear? Something else?

 

[Pablo]

OK, i'll bite. Why? Lower shear? Something else?

Yes

EDIT Lower volatility, higher HTHS basically

 

[buster]

I am one that was so disgusted and put off by early marketing efforts, back in the late 90's/early 00's when every search for "quality oil", "synthetic oil" or similar invariably led to a flashy web page replete with "studies" showing Amsoil on top, quoting an "FTC letter" to other oil companies saying not to use "best" anymore (a favorite as the FTC doesn't really do that), etc., all by dealers. I found Redline and never looked back.

Thanks to BITOG, especially some of the respected opinions here, time to toss the bias and do some reading. Maybe you can teach an old dog.....

I felt the same in the early 2000's but they've improved a lot. Dealers are one thing, but their website is full of great data they provide. They even go as far as showing results of how their CVT fluid exceeds the required spec.

 

[GW.]

I think Amsoil describes themselves best.

“AMSOIL INC. works closely with major additive companies to select the top-performing, and usually most expensive, passenger car and heavy-duty diesel motor oil additives. These additives have already passed all of the API licensing requirements in a petroleum- or synthetic-based formulation. Then, AMSOIL works with the additive company to maximize the amount of additive used and to boost the additive package in selected performance areas to achieve an optimum performing additive package for the intended application. This is unlike many other oil companies that, because additives are expensive, use the minimum amount of the least expensive additives required to meet the minimum API requirements.

AMSOIL then uses a combination of synthetic base stocks with known performance characteristics as replacements for the petroleum base stocks to optimize performance in areas of lubricity, volatility, viscosity index, oxidation and nitration resistance, pour point, flash point, deposit control, soot handling, emissions and many other areas as well. AMSOIL also uses a high-quality V.I. improver with outstanding viscosity and cleanliness properties. This replaces the inexpensive, low-quality V.I. improver used in standard API-licensed petroleum formulas. AMSOIL does laboratory bench tests and runs field tests to verify the superiority of the synthetic formula. AMSOIL continues to monitor the performance of the oil through close scrutiny of tens of thousands of oil analysis tests per year across a wide variety of vehicles all around North America and the world. AMSOIL INC. has been collecting used synthetic oil samples from passenger cars since 1982. No other oil company has such a vast database of the performance of synthetic lubricants over extended drain intervals. AMSOIL products and formulations outperform API-licensed oils because they are engineered for top performance from the very beginning.“

 

[crashz]

I use (and am a dealer for) Amsoil primarily because I can get an excellent product, which has been proven here, for a good price delivered to my door. I use a lot of ATF, gear oil, diesel treatment, gas treatment, grease, diesel engine oils, and Euro engine oils. I feel like the drivetrain lubes were my first taste of an absolutely superior product, and have contributed to the long life of every vehicle I've owned while using them. Those rigs have towed, hauled, plowed snow, and generally led difficult lives with 0 downtime and perfectly clean components.

The engine oils are great, I've used the European oils in my wife's car since new on factory 10k OCI's and the engine is spotless and flawless. My diesels have run everything from SS to the Industrial blends, but these are often changed once a year which is typically well below the mileage/hours required. Full disclosure, my daily driver is an F250 that gets short-tripped everyday. So I change the engine oil very early (2500-3000 miles) and use whatever flavor I'm feeling like. But that's because I'm a BITOGer and can't help myself.

But really, my testimonial doesn't mean much to you. Nor should it. I tell people to try it. Especially the drivetrain fluids. These are what developed my trust in Amsoil products and the reason they are my first stop.

 

[Nuclear_42]

I've been using Amsoil since 2021. Probably rookie numbers on Bitog. Personally I can see why some members ponder about the sales structure. However becoming a preferred customer $16 a year with autopay or free over $500/year on purchases makes it easy to get products. Most customers can get their orders 1-3 days which is comparable to big stores. Anyways I have mostly used Amsoil past few years and tried off the shelf oils and simply return back to Amsoil. The thing about their products is the flat out transparency on product data sheet and customer service. They also have a lot of unique products that maybe others don't offer. Being a USA based family owned business is hard to beat. For your vehicles Amsoil Signature Series is the flagship. I'll recommend SS 5w30 or 0w40 for your fleet. Please feel free to explore their other lower cost lines. XL line is very good oil with pretty much same add pack as SS just less PAO for people not necessarily interested in long drain intervals. High Mileage line also has very good add pack and strong TBN.

 

[Shrike9]

Thanks for this thread, I truly need to research Amsoil more. Following...

I am one that was so disgusted and put off by early marketing efforts, back in the late 90's/early 00's when every search for "quality oil", "synthetic oil" or similar invariably led to a flashy web page replete with "studies" showing Amsoil on top, quoting an "FTC letter" to other oil companies saying not to use "best" anymore (a favorite as the FTC doesn't really do that), etc., all by dealers. I found Redline and never looked back.

Thanks to BITOG, especially some of the respected opinions here, time to toss the bias and do some reading. Maybe you can teach an old dog.....

I started out running Kendall building engines in college & ran Kendall till going overseas & when I came back ran Red Line up till 97 & then ran Royle Purple till getting rid of the Hemi & just running Ford’s oil

I’m playing on running these vehicles till they fall apart from rust and old age or I can’t drive any longer & trying to learn about amsoil while putting my personal feelings about it aside and only look at facts

 

[matrass]

Thanks for that video it was interesting .

 

[Shrike9]

How good are amsoil oil filters?

If I’m understanding what I’ve found, they are less than desirable. Is this true?

 

[GW.]

How good are amsoil oil filters?

If I’m understanding what I’ve found, they are less than desirable. Is this true?

Some are made by Champ Labs who is owned by First Brands which is in bankruptcy. These filters currently have problems.

 

[Pablo]

Some are made by Champ Labs who is owned by First Brands which is in bankruptcy. These filters currently have problems.

Truth. Avoid until Amsoil gets a new contract

 

[tired]

OP, there's so much information about Amsoil I think you will just have to form an opinion after reading. There's enough here, you can read to your heart's content.

I can give you my opinion after spending far too much time here. I think there is a great case to be made for their gear oils and ATFs. They are just great quality, no argument, and their price point makes it almost a no brainer IMHO. It's only a few bucks more expensive than Valvoline. For us, their CVT fluid is much cheaper than Nissan's OEM, and it's far better, as an example. Gear oils last 30,000+ miles, so the marginal cost is negligible.

I think the calculus is a little harder for their motor oils. If your question is about their quality, I think it's top tier oil. Only the higher tier HPL oils could arguable be better. You can see many Amsoil tear downs on Youtube. The engines run on it are immaculate. People just don't seem to have trouble with their oils. However, at least for me, the value proposition breaks down. You can get AMSOIL Signature Series at around 10.49/quart at the lowest price (case of 4 gallons). You can get a really great Euro oil for 4.60/quart (Quaker State Euro), and even less if you catch rebates. So at least for me, it's not worth 2x+ the cost. I short trip a lot and don't put a lot of miles on the car. On the other hand, you could argue that's it is only an extra $35/year for the upgrade to SS, so why not. I think that's a valid argument too. That's less than 1¢/mile additional cost over a 5000 mile OCI. I'm sympathetic to both sides of that argument. Next week I might decide to run SS.