look at this engine..which oil for it ??
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Yup! Similar to the BMW diesel engine used in Shanghai Express (Hapag-Lloyd), these engines and container ships are build to specifications in either European ship builders, Japan (too expensive these days) or S.Korea (by Hyundai).
http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/pages/shanghaiexpress.htm
http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/pages/shanghaiexpress.htm
Amsoil 'cause of the increase in feul milage , less wear and using less imported oil.
"The Aioi Works of Japan's Diesel United, Ltd built the first engines and is where some of these pictures were taken." - from the web site.
One of the photos on that web site diplays Korean letters on the wall. I wonder if the Japanese company had the engine built in a Korean factory.
One of the photos on that web site diplays Korean letters on the wall. I wonder if the Japanese company had the engine built in a Korean factory.
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5w-20 for good economy during warm up.
I'll pocket the 1-2% savings
I'll pocket the 1-2% savings
Gary Allan, sound like a very good waiger to me. But I think I can one up ya here. I will allow you to keep the 1-2% but I say dump in Mobil 1 0W-20 and I will take the extra 1-2 more % and we can split the cost savings of the Mobil 1 0W-20 ability to provide extended oil drains.
I wonder how many thousands of gallons/litres of oil are needed and what is the OCI?
Even at it's most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.
At probably 10 knots...
At probably 10 knots...
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Hyundai claims that they make the most power diesel engine. I wonder if they are the same?
http://www.himsen-engine.com/
http://www.himsen-engine.com/
The crankcase will have a life-time fill of 30 wt., maybe about 30 tons in a dry sump. The combustion space is sealed from the crankcase so products of combustion do not get into the crankcase. This oil is continually centifuged.
60 wt. or 70 wt. TBN 70 oil is injected into the walls of the cylinders to lube the pistons skirts and the liners. This oil is burned or collected in a waste oil tank. The big engines will consume about a ton of this oil daily. The high TBN is needed because of the 3% sulfur in the very heavy fuel oil. Diesel fuel similar but dirtier than #2 is only used when the engine will be allowed to cool down for repairs or layup periods. Otherwise, the heavy oil at about 250°F is continuously circulated through the piping and injectors at all times. The engine is started on heavy fuel.
The engine is directly connected to the propeller. The engine is run in reverse to run the propeller astern.
These engines are licensed from Warsilla of Finland, MAN-B&W of Germany, or Mitsubishi of Japan. They are all made in Asia, and any of the engine makers can make just about any of the engines. The biggest I've heard of is a straight 14, 7400 hp per cylinder, almost 104,000 hp total. They are all straight two-strokes. The last one I ran was the biggest of its day, a Sulzer 12RTA84, 12 cylinders, 84 cm bore, 57,500 hp @ 95 rpm. Four 6' diameter turbochargers.
Ken
60 wt. or 70 wt. TBN 70 oil is injected into the walls of the cylinders to lube the pistons skirts and the liners. This oil is burned or collected in a waste oil tank. The big engines will consume about a ton of this oil daily. The high TBN is needed because of the 3% sulfur in the very heavy fuel oil. Diesel fuel similar but dirtier than #2 is only used when the engine will be allowed to cool down for repairs or layup periods. Otherwise, the heavy oil at about 250°F is continuously circulated through the piping and injectors at all times. The engine is started on heavy fuel.
The engine is directly connected to the propeller. The engine is run in reverse to run the propeller astern.
These engines are licensed from Warsilla of Finland, MAN-B&W of Germany, or Mitsubishi of Japan. They are all made in Asia, and any of the engine makers can make just about any of the engines. The biggest I've heard of is a straight 14, 7400 hp per cylinder, almost 104,000 hp total. They are all straight two-strokes. The last one I ran was the biggest of its day, a Sulzer 12RTA84, 12 cylinders, 84 cm bore, 57,500 hp @ 95 rpm. Four 6' diameter turbochargers.
Ken
Am I reading that right - 102 rpm? Is that the fastest it turns?
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With a stoke that long, I would think any faster would be a bit scary
Yeah, but it sounds faster because it's a 2-stroke.
I fyou look at it in terms of fairly normal design criteria, it scales well.
It has a 98 inch stroke, so at 102 rpm it has a piston speed of 1666 ft/min. Reasonable for long life engine, and that engine is expected to last nearly forever.
That's the same piston speed as a 3 inch stroke engine turning 3332 rpm, not exactly loafing.
Don't worry, I am sure whereever you are....you'll hear it loud and clear
Imagine if the thing got rod knock!
And, could you use AutoRX in this engine?
Imagine if the thing got rod knock!
And, could you use AutoRX in this engine?
Does the Army's Navy still have more boats than the Navy?
Huge engines similar to this (though this sure is a big'un) are used all over the world in electric power plants. Some plants have a dozen of them. They might be compression- or spark-ignition, different ones run on natural gas, heavy (#6) oil, some on diesel, #2 oil, etc. Some are dual-fuel.
It's not unusual to run the exhaust through a heat recovery boiler and produce steam or hot water for industrial use. (cogeneration)
How'd you like to live near one of these beasts, running on bunker oil, with no emission controls at all? Plants like that are out there, in the less-developed parts of the world.
It's not unusual to run the exhaust through a heat recovery boiler and produce steam or hot water for industrial use. (cogeneration)
How'd you like to live near one of these beasts, running on bunker oil, with no emission controls at all? Plants like that are out there, in the less-developed parts of the world.
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