LoL, ask me how much O'Reilly brand alternators suck. Go ahead - AMA!

Went through about four rebuilt alternators on my 2000 Miata before I went to an Advance Auto Parts model which, I believe, lasted a bit longer. Although it ultimately needed replacement as well. Bad luck on remans all around.
 
I just have to finally break down and post some deets about how much O'Reilly "ultima" brand alternators suck. I have bashed them for years but I want to go into details as to why. I just checked out my fourth one on warranty since 2015. I just have to giggle at this point. Fortunately, swapping the alternator in/out of this car is no big deal so instead of buying another brand or installing an expensive, non-junk voltage regulator, I let O'Reillys eat the $100 net cost to them every two years. The vehicle is a highly maintained 2002 Lexus ES300 I've owned and maintained a long time, though it has always been another family member's daily driver. Currently it is my older father's daily driver.

NOTE: there is a lesson here, not just me bloviating - test your alternator BEFORE doing an exhaustive fuse check to find a parasitic draw. More below.

Here's how long you can expect O'Reilly alternators to last. Note that I keep very detailed excel spreadsheets of any time I do maintenance on a car, so the details are accurate:

Here's the history of the alternator in the vehicle:
10/2001 - Original alternator installed, 0.0 miles, Kyushu plant in Miyata, Japan.
6/20/2015 - Total Mileage 239,900 - original alternator failed (bearings). O'Reilly "Optima" alternator installed. 239,900 miles/162 months life
2/1/2017 - Mileage 267,200 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 27,300 miles/18 months life
9/29/2020 -Mileage 322,420 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 55,200 miles/42 months life
9/2/2022 - Mileage 329,775 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 7,350 miles/24 months life

Before you ask -the car has never had the stereo replaced, has no parasitic draw, and is well maintained and the electrical system thoroughly tested.

This time the local O'Reillys manager said they were tired of trying to pretend their alternator could work in this car and would refund my money in full and let me get a better brand next time. Looking forward to 2024!

As a note, voltage regulators fail for three reasons - 1) heat, 2) bad ground, 3) under-spec'd and too much draw. The car has no mods, no excessive draw (I've tested, and the grounds are good (inspected). The cheap Chinese voltage regulators in the Mexican rebuilds just can't take even moderate heat and normal draw - not a confusing diagnosis.

This is the car, recent pics, well maintained. Over the years I've done all required maintenance to keep it in top shape - rebuilt the suspension, restored/refinished the interior, etc. Great road car - decent power but the virutes are it is uber easy to drive, smooth, quiet, and visually very pleasing in the cockpit (not a great looker on the exterior - no pride there). Have a monster fun 2010 GS300 AWD also in the "fam" and while a ton more fun, not nearly as well built as "peak Lexus" like this car. It's a keeper as already demonstrated. But back on track - I can't think of a reason it would suddenly start eating alternators once switching from OE to O'Reillys brand other than the obvious.

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I detailed the interior in 2021 and refinished the front seats and center armrest, but the steering wheels and the rest is still original at 330k miles. Peak Lexus, as they say. 1998-2003 is the generally accepted range.
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This failure was particularly annoying, the diode failure still left it providing plenty of charging (actually too much now that I realize it) voltage. There was a massive parasitic draw and I tore out every fuse and relay looking for it - engine bay box as well as interior. No joy.

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After that, I did what I should have done beforehand, which was look for A/C voltage across the battery terminals, indicating a failed voltage rectifier. D'oh:
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Replaced the alternator and parasitic draw and A/C voltage gone.

O'Reillys is rapidly becoming my "white whale:"



Amen, Ahab.
Good job!
So are we looking for "O" A/C voltage across the battery with the car running.
So NO! A/C voltage allowed?
 
i was burnt by a o Reilly reman as well, lasted six months. returned and went bought a denso for twice the price at honda. drove the car another two years.
 
One thing I will add on this is O’Reilly’s decent treatment of the situation. I forgot to update this in real time when it occurred but will do so now.

I took the old alternator back to O’Reillys and they were very honest they have huge problems with this. They refunded my original cost from several years ago. This turned out to be within $1 of a NAPA alternator on their 20% off sale recently. So I swapped a NAPA unit in, also with a lifetime warranty, for no net out-of-pocket vs. the hassle. That is a decent result after all these years and trouble.

I wanted to add this since I’m not anti-O’Reillys in the big picture of things, and they are NOT difficult to deal with when you have problems on their electrical components.
 
I just have to finally break down and post some deets about how much O'Reilly "ultima" brand alternators suck. I have bashed them for years but I want to go into details as to why. I just checked out my fourth one on warranty since 2015. I just have to giggle at this point. Fortunately, swapping the alternator in/out of this car is no big deal so instead of buying another brand or installing an expensive, non-junk voltage regulator, I let O'Reillys eat the $100 net cost to them every two years. The vehicle is a highly maintained 2002 Lexus ES300 I've owned and maintained a long time, though it has always been another family member's daily driver. Currently it is my older father's daily driver.

NOTE: there is a lesson here, not just me bloviating - test your alternator BEFORE doing an exhaustive fuse check to find a parasitic draw. More below.

Here's how long you can expect O'Reilly alternators to last. Note that I keep very detailed excel spreadsheets of any time I do maintenance on a car, so the details are accurate:

Here's the history of the alternator in the vehicle:
10/2001 - Original alternator installed, 0.0 miles, Kyushu plant in Miyata, Japan.
6/20/2015 - Total Mileage 239,900 - original alternator failed (bearings). O'Reilly "Optima" alternator installed. 239,900 miles/162 months life
2/1/2017 - Mileage 267,200 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 27,300 miles/18 months life
9/29/2020 -Mileage 322,420 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 55,200 miles/42 months life
9/2/2022 - Mileage 329,775 - voltage regulator failed, replaced under warranty - 7,350 miles/24 months life

Before you ask -the car has never had the stereo replaced, has no parasitic draw, and is well maintained and the electrical system thoroughly tested.

This time the local O'Reillys manager said they were tired of trying to pretend their alternator could work in this car and would refund my money in full and let me get a better brand next time. Looking forward to 2024!

As a note, voltage regulators fail for three reasons - 1) heat, 2) bad ground, 3) under-spec'd and too much draw. The car has no mods, no excessive draw (I've tested, and the grounds are good (inspected). The cheap Chinese voltage regulators in the Mexican rebuilds just can't take even moderate heat and normal draw - not a confusing diagnosis.

This is the car, recent pics, well maintained. Over the years I've done all required maintenance to keep it in top shape - rebuilt the suspension, restored/refinished the interior, etc. Great road car - decent power but the virutes are it is uber easy to drive, smooth, quiet, and visually very pleasing in the cockpit (not a great looker on the exterior - no pride there). Have a monster fun 2010 GS300 AWD also in the "fam" and while a ton more fun, not nearly as well built as "peak Lexus" like this car. It's a keeper as already demonstrated. But back on track - I can't think of a reason it would suddenly start eating alternators once switching from OE to O'Reillys brand other than the obvious.

View attachment 115309

I detailed the interior in 2021 and refinished the front seats and center armrest, but the steering wheels and the rest is still original at 330k miles. Peak Lexus, as they say. 1998-2003 is the generally accepted range.
View attachment 115310

This failure was particularly annoying, the diode failure still left it providing plenty of charging (actually too much now that I realize it) voltage. There was a massive parasitic draw and I tore out every fuse and relay looking for it - engine bay box as well as interior. No joy.

View attachment 115311

After that, I did what I should have done beforehand, which was look for A/C voltage across the battery terminals, indicating a failed voltage rectifier. D'oh:
View attachment 115312

Replaced the alternator and parasitic draw and A/C voltage gone.

O'Reillys is rapidly becoming my "white whale:"



Amen, Ahab.
Did they change manufacturers or rebuilders? Were they always this bad?
 
Guessing they don't replace brushes? Just re use brushes and bearings if they'll function? That's about all that can go bad in em anyway.
 
There are a few US companies that make upgraded alternators for vehicles that demand more current such as but not limited to vehicles with high power stereo systems. A standard power or slight increase in power version of an alternator from one of these companies probably would be very reliable, and a little more expensive.

Certainly a step up from standard quality.
 
All reman alts come from a BBB/Remy plant in Mexico or WAI in China. Unless you buy a Denso or Bosch reman, when you open a box store alt, expect to find Chinese bearings and diode/voltage regulator, a sleeved slip end and sloppily soldered brush holder.

I never had to buy an alternator in the last 14 years. I’ll never buy a box store one.

Where do you buy the replacement parts? I just replaced the alternator in a cherokee with an Ultima one and the voltage fluctuated between 13.8 and 14.1/14.2. It makes me nervous. I haven't returned the original one yet, and I'm thinking I might keep it and rebuild it. The old one is only outputting about 10.5.
 
My small town is fortunate to still have a shop that specializes in rebuilding alternators and starters. The next time I have one go bad I'll take it to them to rebuild rather than buying a reman from a parts store. Like you, in the past when I did buy a reman I have had to replace them multiple times. The last time I had the shop rebuild the alternator and as far as I know that one was still working when the car went to the crusher.
 
I prefer to pay more for a brand new (not rebuilt) OEM alternator from a Honda/Toyota dealer's parts department, and have a local mechanic install it. Yes, initial cost is higher, but brand new OEM alternators (ex: Honda or Toyota) seem to last 15 years.
 
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I got bit by an O'Reilly alternator circa 2013 on my old GTI. Lasted a few months before crapping out. Gave up and went to the independent VW mechanic in town and had him install a new one. Don't remember what brand he used but it lasted until I got rid of the car in 2018.
 
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