Lifetime warranty batteries emerge

[alarmguy]

How is 15 year, 932,000 miles a lifetime warranty? Do they just mean outliving the rest of the car? I know it's the usual language used in the auto industry now just like lifetime fluids in transmissions. Sure the fluid is considered good for the the lifetime of the transmission, but what's the projected lifetime of that transmission?

Don't get me wrong that's a great warranty and these days on the time alone it's longer than I keep a car. There just has to be a better descriptor, like the actual time and miles instead of calling it lifetime. Maybe that was the intention and the language translation loses it in english.


I thought that was considered the industry standard for battery degradation. I'm sure it could be viewed different over there in order to get to these numbers and maybe by their standard a Tesla pack would match their testing. It would be an important piece of information here.

Same battery warranty as Tesla 70% before considered failed.
I mean, lets not knock the company because no one in here looked up the information ...
Being this is a new extension of the warranty of course you would want to confirm until everything is updated. But we deport have to worry about that here in our country. We arent allowed to buy well priced EVs here like they can in the UK..

https://www.mg.co.uk/sites/default/files/2021-10/MG_Online_Warranty_Statement_October_2021.pdf

 

[zzyzzx]

So it turns the vehicle into a throwaway car at the 15 year time mark?

 

[thastinger]

MG (a Chinese brand) has a lifetime warranty now.

CATL is out with a million-mile warranty.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.aren..._catls_new_15_million_km_battery-amp-3367.php

My 1998 F150 would argue that 15 years is "lifetime"

 

[Torrid]

So it turns the vehicle into a throwaway car at the 15 year time mark?

So you’re 100% certain the battery fails after the warranty is out?

Not like you can buy it here either. I’ll make sure to park my Tesla on the curb with trash bulk pickup when the warranty runs out in 8 years.

 

[Trav]

Same could be said about hybrids, but the market doesn't seem to be concerned.

Most hybrid batteries are a fraction of the cost brand new than those for an EV so it is not the same. The problem with Tesla and maybe others is under warranty the replace it with a reman and by some accounts the quality is not anywhere near as good as new.

 

[Torrid]

Most hybrid batteries are a fraction of the cost brand new than those for an EV so it is not the same. The problem with Tesla and maybe others is under warranty the replace it with a reman and by some accounts the quality is not anywhere near as good as new.

They swap modules to balanced voltage cells that match the good modules, so essentially what they’re doing is retaining the as much good as they can from the donor battery.

At the end of the day a working balanced mostly 5-10 year old battery is still a mostly 5-10 year old battery. It’s not a new replacement at all. Kind of like a warranty replacement on an engine part. It’s not an immediate decision to swap a new engine in. It’s not a guaranteed new battery that for sure will do 10-15 more years. It’s also a fairly rare occurrence, but it does happen.

 

[Trav]

There are a lot of complaints about the batteries, it is all well and good saying it is rare but if it happens the owner is screwed.

 

[SHOZ]

I'm on my third set of lifetime warranty windows in the house. No good when they go out of business.

 

[tcp71]

Right here.

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[alarmguy]

There are a lot of complaints about the batteries, it is all well and good saying it is rare but if it happens the owner is screwed.

Wow!!!
Fantastic video, person well spoken, and makes a lot of sense.
I would love to hear what he had to say about the Chevrolet Bolt but I could tell you one thing thank God this video isn’t about a GM car. It would never be lived down in this form.

 

[VersatileGuy]

There are two types of lifetime warranties. The one that gets you to buy but there will be a way it won't be honored. The other is an actual policy the seller will honor(usually for higher prices).

I wouldn't trust the Chinese state-owned mafia to actually put forth a safe, long-lasting product. Warranty doesn't mean much if things go up in flames.

 

[ME_Andy]

I'm pretty sure the American manufacturers could do this too. Tesla and GM have even said they're close to it. But, they know there are a bunch of cheap nut jobs out there who would buy one then hold onto it for 30 years, lost forever as a customer. Hey, I'm one of those cheap nut jobs.

 

[dogememe]

I'm pretty sure the American manufacturers could do this too. Tesla and GM have even said they're close to it. But, they know there are a bunch of cheap nut jobs out there who would buy one then hold onto it for 30 years, lost forever as a customer. Hey, I'm one of those cheap nut jobs.

GM did good enough for us Bolt owners. When the battery was replaced under recall the battery warranty started over. Mine was done in 2022 so I have til 2031. It’s a 8 year or 100K mile warranty. That’s a good gesture to demonstrate confidence in the replacement parts and make amends to those inconvenienced by the issue. And I trust GM far more to honor their warranty than some random Chinese firm.

 

[Flashlightboy]

These lifetime warranties or fluids aren't worth didly, like a 3 legged cat trying run across ice.

Lifetime? Of the original owner? Projected lifetime of the car? Subsequent buyers of the car? Mileage does or doesn't fit into the analysis?

 

[alarmguy]

I don't see anything about 15 years in the MG announcement. Just "lifetime".

Your post is correct. Seems everyone is confused here and maybe you too.
You are all talking about two different companies with different warranties!

MG is a Chinese car manufacturer. They have just announced, first in the world I believe. A lifetime warranty on their EV batteries and PRIMARY DRIVE components on their EVs. THIS IS HUGE!

THIS MG WARRANTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CATL 15 year million mile warranty on their batteries for commercial trucks and buses that is also a discussion in this thread. (you confused everyone by putting this in the OP)

 

[alarmguy]

GM did good enough for us Bolt owners. When the battery was replaced under recall the battery warranty started over. Mine was done in 2022 so I have til 2031. It’s a 8 year or 100K mile warranty. That’s a good gesture to demonstrate confidence in the replacement parts and make amends to those inconvenienced by the issue. And I trust GM far more to honor their warranty than some random Chinese firm.

I kind of regret not jumping on the Bolt Bandwagon when two new ones were available a few months back at my local dealer.
Oh well, it's either wait two years or just get a gas Trailblazer wanted by my wife for her car. I guess the time is not right yet, she isnt motivated enough for a new car.

 

[zzyzzx]

How does that lifetime warranty work out 20 years later when they will tell you that they don't even make a battery for your vehicle any more?

 

[alarmguy]

How does that lifetime warranty work out 20 years later when they will tell you that they don't even make a battery for your vehicle any more?

Well, I rather have a "lifetime" battery vs as an example 8 year Tesla warranty. You would think the resale would hold up better on the MG. It also included drive components. I do agree with out of production stuff but that is with any vehicle, at least the warranty is something more than the others offer.

"the company also extends a lifetime warranty for High-Voltage Battery, Electric Drive Unit, and Power Electronic Bloc."
https://www.mgcars.com/en/NewsActivities/Detail/MG-Lifetime-Battery-Warranty

 

[andrew_j]

Lifetime for an everyday car to me is about 15 years. They rust, rot and are worn unless someone did not drive much.

I keep a used car about 10-14 years and replace. I could care less about resale and not a consideration in my “lifetime” use of vehicle.

 

[alarmguy]

Lifetime for an everyday car to me is about 15 years. They rust, rot and are worn unless someone did not drive much.

I keep a used car about 10-14 years and replace. I could care less about resale and not a consideration in my “lifetime” use of vehicle.

Results are region dependant
Up where you live, road salt and road brine are brutal on cars. Much improved from decades ago but it's driving your car in corrosive conditions worse than salt water.
I do agree though, 10 to 14 years, but the good news is IF is was an MG which will not be allowed to be sold here in the USA, resale should be very good compared to other EVs as the purchaser would know the battery is still under warranty. I mean, that is HUGE for such an expensive item.