Lifespan of Fram ultra

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Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by UncleDave
and the assembly is on a stamped carrier.


The "stamped carrier" is the "leaf spring" that keeps the element pushed against the threaded end of the can...

which seals the "dirty side" from the "clean side" of the oil flow....

but also serves to keep proper tension against the silicone ADBV.


Oh I know what it is - you guys have seen many of my own cut and pastes

But it doesn't really "spring" it holds the spring and poppet.

Its more " stiiff" than "spring".
 
The car is a 2017 Altima 2.5 with 15K miles on it. I generally drive ~25k miles per year, and my driving habits are not harsh. The factory filters are small on the Altima's. I used the slightly larger Fram Ultra 7317 instead of the 6607. Who knows if that slightly larger filter does anything, but they were the same price.
 
Originally Posted by cals400ex
The car is a 2017 Altima 2.5 with 15K miles on it. I generally drive ~25k miles per year, and my driving habits are not harsh. The factory filters are small on the Altima's. I used the slightly larger Fram Ultra 7317 instead of the 6607. Who knows if that slightly larger filter does anything, but they were the same price.
That's the filter I use on my brother's '02 Altima 2.5, it's now up to 185K & sounds exactly the same as when he bought it. He routinely goes 12K highway miles on Full Synthetic between changes (even though I tell him not to exceed 10K).
 
Originally Posted by cals400ex
The car is a 2017 Altima 2.5 with 15K miles on it. I generally drive ~25k miles per year, and my driving habits are not harsh. The factory filters are small on the Altima's. I used the slightly larger Fram Ultra 7317 instead of the 6607. Who knows if that slightly larger filter does anything, but they were the same price.

Do you have concerns about warranty? I know I do with my 2017 Elantra. Using an Ultra now and it will be changed at 3,750 miles as required for warranty. Not sure about Nissan but Hyundai can be finicky if receipts do not line up with required service intervals.
 
Running the Fram Ultra for 9-10k OCI on my F150 with almost 8qts sump. That averages to just under 1yr per OCI (probably 10 months). Cut the last one open it was pristine inside with the exception or the dirty oil.
 
Originally Posted by UncleDave
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by UncleDave
and the assembly is on a stamped carrier.


The "stamped carrier" is the "leaf spring" that keeps the element pushed against the threaded end of the can...

which seals the "dirty side" from the "clean side" of the oil flow....

but also serves to keep proper tension against the silicone ADBV.


Oh I know what it is - you guys have seen many of my own cut and pastes

But it doesn't really "spring" it holds the spring and poppet.

Its more " stiiff" than "spring".


It does have some "spring" to it ... but not much, just enough to hold everything inside the filter tight with the force produced by the slight "spring" in the "carrier" (ie, "leaf spring").
 
Originally Posted by MONKEYMAN
Originally Posted by cals400ex
The car is a 2017 Altima 2.5 with 15K miles on it. I generally drive ~25k miles per year, and my driving habits are not harsh. The factory filters are small on the Altima's. I used the slightly larger Fram Ultra 7317 instead of the 6607. Who knows if that slightly larger filter does anything, but they were the same price.

Do you have concerns about warranty? I know I do with my 2017 Elantra. Using an Ultra now and it will be changed at 3,750 miles as required for warranty. Not sure about Nissan but Hyundai can be finicky if receipts do not line up with required service intervals.


I'm not sure how particular Nissan is with the warranty. I guess I'm assuming I'll not need it for internal engine related problems over the next 18k that's remaining on the warranty. I'll change the oil every 5k until the warranty is up, then I may extend that a bit. I'll probably not change the filter each oil change though.....
 
Originally Posted by cals400ex
The car is a 2017 Altima 2.5 with 15K miles on it. I generally drive ~25k miles per year, and my driving habits are not harsh. The factory filters are small on the Altima's. I used the slightly larger Fram Ultra 7317 instead of the 6607. Who knows if that slightly larger filter does anything, but they were the same price.

Can't see why it wouldn't last the whole 20k on your new engine. Id make sure the bypass setting is correct and if it's under warranty does Nissan say to change filter at a particular mileage? OEM is your safest bet. wix usually seems to properly spec their filters for it's intended use so that's maybe a good option too.
 
On a warranty vehicle, I would just use a cheap Denso and a decent synthetic or blend every 7500 to keep the warranty people happy, and start using the Ultra & extending after the warranty is up. I'm sure the Ultra can take whatever you throw at it on a new engine, but I wouldn't want to roll the dice on some random non-oil related failure & give a dealership an out.
 
It depends how much of a perfectionist you are with machinery . One subject not discussed here on a depth filter like the Ultra, is maybe the inner fine layer is getting restricted while the outer part looks clean. Just a thought. I have so many filters, I want to change them out to get rid of them, plus a new filter apparently is at it's best in efficiency. There is also a small amount of old oil remaining in the old filter. Perfectionism kicks in. If I saw an Ultra blackened on the outside I would say I ran it too long.
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by UncleDave
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by UncleDave
and the assembly is on a stamped carrier.


The "stamped carrier" is the "leaf spring" that keeps the element pushed against the threaded end of the can...

which seals the "dirty side" from the "clean side" of the oil flow....

but also serves to keep proper tension against the silicone ADBV.


Oh I know what it is - you guys have seen many of my own cut and pastes

But it doesn't really "spring" it holds the spring and poppet.

Its more " stiiff" than "spring".


It does have some "spring" to it ... but not much, just enough to hold everything inside the filter tight with the force produced by the slight "spring" in the "carrier" (ie, "leaf spring").


Fair enough - but this moniker doesn't really address that an actual coil spring is what controls the bypass.

Not the carrier (leaf spring) acting as holder under tension.

It seems to focus on that piece and saying it's a "leaf spring bypass " - ignores the totality of the mechanism and reality that a coil spring controls any bypass event.


UD
 
^^^ Of course, the bypass valve is an independent component. Only confusion would come to someone not very up on oil filter design (not you, but maybe noobs that haven't seen guts of filters).
 
Originally Posted by Linctex
Modern engines just don't load up oil filters with debris like they used to 30+ years ago. ...
Engines of 30+ years ago didn't either, if reasonably maintained. At least the ones I looked at didn't.
 
Originally Posted by UncleDave
... Fair enough - but this moniker doesn't really address that an actual coil spring is what controls the bypass.
It seems to focus on that piece and saying it's a "leaf spring bypass " - ignores the totality of the mechanism and reality that a coil spring controls any bypass event.
Actually that's a helical spring.
 
Originally Posted by CR94
Originally Posted by UncleDave
... Fair enough - but this moniker doesn't really address that an actual coil spring is what controls the bypass.
It seems to focus on that piece and saying it's a "leaf spring bypass " - ignores the totality of the mechanism and reality that a coil spring controls any bypass event.
Actually that's a helical spring.


then perhaps this is is what I mean to convey-

Seems to me its a "helical spring/ poppet" bypass more than a "leaf spring bypass", but I'm not going to change the way anyone views this part.

UD
 
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