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Originally Posted By: tpitcher

Scamming & unwarranted free rides really needs to stop.

I have saved & "done without" most of my life.

- Not a penny of Unemployment.
- Not a penny of Welfare.
- Not a penny of a handout.




Same here. Its these handouts that will be the destruction of this country. People who truly need help should be helped, the scammers should be punished and their handouts stopped. Those people in this country that are here illegally should be sent home packing.
 
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Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those people's mistake is that they work, you should see the poor people around here that milk the system.

First you get on some kind of disability, than you get the EBT card, than rent aid, than heat aid, than free cable, oh and free medical as well. If your really good you can get into that nice state run condo complex that's on the water, with great water views.




You forgot the free cell phone.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Kill the current tax code and fire the IRS. Then install a flat sales tax on almost everything, then the only exemptions are for the old and disabled.

Buy a lot? Pay a lot! Buy a little? Pay little. Fair and simple.

As for corporate taxation, Pablo is right on, I own one and we pay TONS of taxes to a whole lot of city, state and federal sources.


+1 get consumption, in particular raw materials and energy. Find a choke point so the number of tax returns will be in the hundreds.

Some dude starting a side business selling adirondack chairs out of his yard should have to pay a cent in income/business tax, and shouldn't be a scofflaw.
 
Originally Posted By: whip
I'm curious how many people that complain about $10.00/hour jobs, shop at Walmart?



Though I'm sure there will be some hand waving arguments about imports, I give a big +1 to this.
 
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Scamming & unwarranted free rides really needs to stop.

I have saved & "done without" most of my life.

- Not a penny of Unemployment.
- Not a penny of Welfare.
- Not a penny of a handout.

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+1 If I cant afford it, I dont get it. It seems simple enough to me but I guess I am in the minority!
 
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Originally Posted By: whip
I'm curious how many people that complain about $10.00/hour jobs, shop at Walmart?



My last set of tires for my Jeep was purchased at WalMart and I'll tell you exactly why I purchased them there.
The owner of my local mom-and-pop tire store whines and complains about all the imports that come into this country. If you get him started, he will talk your ear off for about a half an hour about how we are being taken over and are now owned by the foreigners. Yet he sells very few tires that are American made. 99% of what he sells is manufactured in Viet Nam, Korea or China. You can get a Firestone front tractor (tractor, as in ag) tire from him that is made in America, but the Firestone company is foreign owned.
So, getting back to the WalMart part of this post, I purchased some Goodyear Wranglers for my Jeep from WM. They are American made and I'm sure they were made by a union worker for all you union lovers out there. I know the Wranglers are not the best tire in the world, but they have done fine for what I need them to do. I also got them at a decent price. One more thing: My mom-and-pop store will not sell you a tire on a Saturday or a Sunday. My local WM will sell or fix a tire 7 days a week.
I bet if you needed a tire fixed on a Saturday or a Sunday and no other place was open you would humbly walk into a WalMart tire store also.
 
Originally Posted By: morepwr
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Scamming & unwarranted free rides really needs to stop.

I have saved & "done without" most of my life.

- Not a penny of Unemployment.
- Not a penny of Welfare.
- Not a penny of a handout.

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+1 If I cant afford it, I dont get it. It seems simple enough to me but I guess I am in the minority! [/quote]

You're in good company. Same goes here.
 
The whole system is jacked up. We keep encouraging and rewarding bad behavior.

Major reform is needed. Moochers at the top and bottom. Both extract wealth and are abusive and need to be kept in check.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
The whole system is jacked up. We keep encouraging and rewarding bad behavior.

Major reform is needed. Moochers at the top and bottom. Both extract wealth and are abusive and need to be kept in check.



Yup and the biggest players keep us fighting amongst ourselves while remaining virtually invisible.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
The whole system is jacked up. We keep encouraging and rewarding bad behavior.

Major reform is needed. Moochers at the top and bottom. Both extract wealth and are abusive and need to be kept in check.



Agreed.

So what you are saying is that we have tyrants in control of the government?


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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: buster
The whole system is jacked up. We keep encouraging and rewarding bad behavior.

Major reform is needed. Moochers at the top and bottom. Both extract wealth and are abusive and need to be kept in check.



Agreed.

So what you are saying is that we have tyrants in control of the government?


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Pretty much. LOL
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those people's mistake is that they work, you should see the poor people around here that milk the system.

First you get on some kind of disability, than you get the EBT card, than rent aid, than heat aid, than free cable, oh and free medical as well. If your really good you can get into that nice state run condo complex that's on the water, with great water views.



is that why I get notices in my gas heat bill that says to donate for the less fortunate that can't afford heat this winter?


Yeah, never donate make the bums shiver.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those people's mistake is that they work, you should see the poor people around here that milk the system.

First you get on some kind of disability, than you get the EBT card, than rent aid, than heat aid, than free cable, oh and free medical as well. If your really good you can get into that nice state run condo complex that's on the water, with great water views.


I'm approaching that point. Giving some VERY serious thought to going on SSDI for the rest of my life. I could probably even scam it well enough to get "rent" assistance for "renting" a room in my own house.


If you do that IMHO you lose the right to complain about anything in this country since you won't be contributing.

My companies and I pay a [censored] ton in taxes every April and it [censored] me off to no end when its wasted. Because I worked hard for that money!
 
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Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Those people's mistake is that they work, you should see the poor people around here that milk the system.

First you get on some kind of disability, than you get the EBT card, than rent aid, than heat aid, than free cable, oh and free medical as well. If your really good you can get into that nice state run condo complex that's on the water, with great water views.




You forgot the free cell phone.


Sorry my bad.

You will love this.

My uncle in a moment of poor decision making bought a 5 family in a Ghetto, err "lower working class" section of a city. The numbers work great on paper, its just the jump to reality that sucks.

Anyway he had a unit for rent and was showing it, one lady pulls up in a brand new Chevy Tahoe, dressed to the nines, smart phone, kids you name it.

She was on every kind of aid, and my favorite her "husband" although he really isn't that because she would lose her aid worked a decent job.

Being in real estate and on the fringe of a lot of these programs although for my stuff I refuse to deal with them, I hear a lot of these stories, its very common.
 
I ask myself why do I put $400 per week into my retirement plans when I could choose to be unemployed and have all the hand outs, driving a new SUV, big flat panel TV, have cash to buy beer, top of the line cell phone, lotto tickets and visit the casino ...

Maybe I was dumb to be working like a dog since I was 15 and not take advantage of all that free money and entitlements those less 'privileged' folks get by refusing to work ?

What I see going on makes me sick !
 
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
I ask myself why do I put $400 per week into my retirement plans..........

What I see going on makes me sick !


Makes me sick too, wait till they raise capital gains taxes see what that does to any savings plan.
 
Unfortunately people that are responsible and earn their livings honorably will not back leaders that are WILLING AND ABLE to
eliminate such "welfare" to those that are clearly undeserving.

Those potential leaders ALREADY exist but were NOT supported.

Instead they pick the lesser of evils.

Problem is there is NO such thing in reality.
 
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