Last WW I vet passes

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Today, most kids will lie to get out of trouble.
Then, reflect upon this individual; he repeatedly lied to recruiters until he could find someone to allow him to fight for his country at the age of 16!

After service in WWI, being captured in WWII in the Philippines, and living 110 years, his journey has ended.


Godspeed, Sir. A man among men.
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Amen to that. Sadly, he will be forgotten like the others that served in WWI and WWII, and history will repeat itself.


I don't know Johnny. I have never seen the kind of support our troops have had in recent years. Perhaps he may be forgotten personally, but his legacy and sacrifice will most certainly live on.

I honor my fathers by teaching my children, as I hope other parents do.
 
I do think most people appreciate the sacrifices that military members and their families make. The media would like for us to believe otherwise. Of course this is coming from someone that doesn't leave my little very conservative pocket of central Virginia.
 
A man among men indeed
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Amen to that. Sadly, he will be forgotten like the others that served in WWI and WWII, and history will repeat itself.


I am afraid this is correct.
 
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Amen to that. Sadly, he will be forgotten like the others that served in WWI and WWII, and history will repeat itself.


I am afraid this is correct.


As am I.
 
In no way am I meaning to degrade the topic, nor the man, but it's important to distinguish concepts here.

To remember this man today is good, but there were many, many others that came before him, and after him. His name only has significance in that he was the very last of the known WWI vets. No one remembers the 14th, nor the 2,339th, etc. The first and last entity of every major event are always known. His legend is that of happenstance; he outlived the others. Although no small feat, I do not salute him for that.

I salute his context, his fortitude, his committment, regardless of what date he was born to this world or departed from it.

What this man sought, bought and fought for is of consequence; that is the true measure of a man or woman. I suspect he, like most of our forefathers, would be mightly pleased if the values and freedoms they cherished were carried on.

How many of you know Samuel Jay Alley? I doubt any of you do; I would not expect you to. He is my gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather, and he served three enlistments in the American Revolution. Just because you do not know of him, does not mean you don't appreciate his valor and sacrifice. On the other hand, to know his name, does not guarantee that you would embrace his efforts. That can be said of everyone even to this day, serving our country. I don't know them all, but I appreciate them all.

To teach our children not just the concepts but the actions necessary to more forward with honor and integrity are the greatest virtues. Dignity, honor, county, freedom mean nothing if not practiced; merely knowing of them is not enough - we must engage in them.

It is of note to remember this man's name; it is of great importance to remember his contribution. How many of us would have stood repeatedly in line, trying to serve, after being told "No" so many times, but feeling compelled to serve. It is nice to know his name, but it is his committment and sense of singular purpose that I honor today.

If the compulsion that drove this man to honor and serice and sacrifice is lost, it is the fault of his generation; it is the fault of ours.
 
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Sadly, he will be forgotten like the others that served in WWI and WWII, and history will repeat itself.

Well we'll all be forgotten some day. If we had a country of Buckles we might actually survive.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Survived being in TWO World Wars, and lived to 110.

Wow - what a guy. He definetly EARNED his peace!


+1
 
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
In no way am I meaning to degrade the topic, nor the man, but it's important to distinguish concepts here.

To remember this man today is good, but there were many, many others that came before him, and after him. His name only has significance in that he was the very last of the known WWI vets. No one remembers the 14th, nor the 2,339th, etc. The first and last entity of every major event are always known. His legend is that of happenstance; he outlived the others. Although no small feat, I do not salute him for that.


With all due respect, what a misguided diatribe you wrote there. I am certain the least intelligent person realizes that the man's longevity is what makes him a symbol for all those who fought and died in World War I. Sullying this symbol is not just superfluous, but it means belittling everyone.


Originally Posted By: dnewton3
No one remembers the 14th, nor the 2,339th, etc.

Family and friends don't remember, or does that not count in your view?

I find your comments, a moderator's comments! totally out of line, especially because you were the one who brought up the death Mr Buckles in the first place.
 
My point is that we may or may not remember this guy a year from now, and you might be able to Google him in the future, but MOST of the other people that fight for variaous reasons are never remembered but by a small fraction of society. We cannot remember them all, but we CAN remember the ideals they fought for.

The comments that others made about his passing into anonymity are fair.

My point is that to REALLY honor him, and those like him, we should teach our children to live the ideals. Just talking about freedom and sacrifice pales in comparison to acting to defend them!

Why does history tend to repeat itself? Because people forget. Why do they forget? Because they tend to take things for granted.

Which do you believe that these men and women would prefer to have happen?:
1) remember them, and allow the values and sacrifices to become some theory in a dusty old text book
2) honor them by living life, and teaching each generation, that actions speak louder than words

There is nothing wrong with paying tribute to this man, but there are thousands like him that did just as much and are known but by a few, and they also will pass in time.

It's not enough to remember the dreams of others before you; LIVE THEM! Get the difference?

Several people posted that they were afraid that generations will forget. But forget what? What's more important; the theory or the act? Again, who's fault is that? Ours!

Want to honor this man, and all those like him? Teach your kids about sacrifice by living it; teach them about honor by showing respect; teach them about duty by doing it.
 
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You clearly don't understand why I criticized your inconsiderate comments, and you can try to justify those comments by being even more patronizing all you want. I'm done with you and you may consider yourself ignored from here on.
 
Originally Posted By: Volvo_ST1
You clearly don't understand why I criticized your inconsiderate comments, and you can try to justify those comments by being even more patronizing all you want. I'm done with you and you may consider yourself ignored from here on.


Please put me and a hundred more on your ignore list as we agree with dnewton3. It will be nice to be ignored by someone other than my wife and kids.
 
I have been watching a series 'King and Empire' lately, about Canada's role in WW1. For the first time (perhaps it's my age) but the magnitude of the Carnage and Horror is really sinking in.
What drives men, Governments, to do this?
Could we today, order men 'over the top' at the cost of thousands of lives, to hopefully capture a few hundred yards of mud?

For the men themselves, did they do it for their Country and Honor,or because they little choice at the time?

We 'perhaps' live in a different age now, for us, at least, War is more 'sanitized'.


IMO the true cost of WW1 is STILL being counted.
 
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Godspeed Frank Buckles, thank you for your long service to this great nation. I will give a moment of silence tonight before I go to sleep to remember you and your fellow comrades. Rest in Peace.
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Originally Posted By: Volvo_ST1
You clearly don't understand why I criticized your inconsiderate comments, and you can try to justify those comments by being even more patronizing all you want. I'm done with you and you may consider yourself ignored from here on.


Please put me and a hundred more on your ignore list as we agree with dnewton3. It will be nice to be ignored by someone other than my wife and kids.


I definitely agree with Johnny on this!
 
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