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Most conspiracy theories have there origins in those that bear:
A) deep seated insecurties
B) unsubjective denial
C) other clinical mental health conditions listed under DSM4
A) deep seated insecurties
B) unsubjective denial
C) other clinical mental health conditions listed under DSM4
You know he did drugs; stop being in denial. He also injected himself with cancer in order to hide from the public until his drug test evading techniques were perfected.
He'll do anything to win you know.
He'll do anything to win you know.
Yup, including being castrated. Now thats dedication.
Having one nut removed when it is rotted with cancer is an easy decision. No dedication is involved, just a simple logical decison for anyone capable of intelligent thought.quote:
Originally posted by blupupher:
Yup, including being castrated. Now thats dedication.
Lance has been the most closely watched and random tested athlete in history. A few others around him on the Tour got banned for illegal drugs. Lance just kept on training and winning.
The sore losers need to get over themselves.
The sore losers need to get over themselves.
Yes, I know,sarcasm does not come over well on the net.quote:
Originally posted by XS650:
Having one nut removed when it is rotted with cancer is an easy decision. No dedication is involved, just a simple logical decison for anyone capable of intelligent thought.quote:
Originally posted by blupupher:
Yup, including being castrated. Now thats dedication.
I have never cared much about excessively motivated people, and especially lose interest in those who abandon their families who have seen them through hard times. Bruce Jenner is another example of one whose spouse who supported him all through his training leading up to his Olympic Decathelon victory, only to have him dump her thereafter.
Real men keep their vows of matrimony.
With all that was in his system fighting cancer, it would not surprise me if some more stuff, or extra quantities of stuff, snuck in.
Real men keep their vows of matrimony.
With all that was in his system fighting cancer, it would not surprise me if some more stuff, or extra quantities of stuff, snuck in.
"Bruce Jenner is another example of one whose spouse who supported him all through his training leading up to his Olympic Decathelon victory, only to have him dump her thereafter."
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And then he only went half way in that sex change surgery. LOL
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And then he only went half way in that sex change surgery. LOL
Since when is any athlete automatically elevated to a level where they are beyond the skepticism that all athletes are subject to when it comes to performance enhancing drugs. There have been several generations of these drugs that are not detected by current testing procedures. Fact of the matter is that a negative test doesn't really mean much these days. One shouldn't believe that BALCO was the only lab in the world turning this stuff out.
Unfortunately this is the state of things today in sport. From now on there will always be a doubt in the minds of many people when it comes to athletes like Armstrong.
Well Jeffrey, let's see. He foots the bill for most of his testing. His history of negative results is 100%. Now some obscure, flaky testing which cannot be collaborated is thrown out there. FWIW he was a world champion before his cancer, so it's not like he never was world class before his first tour victory.
Then, your statement of "negative test doesn't really mean much these days." Really? All you do with your post is prove 59 Vetteman right.
Maybe your countyman Jan Ullrich will win again. Maybe not. It's not the "state of sports" which is the problem. It's small minds.
Then, your statement of "negative test doesn't really mean much these days." Really? All you do with your post is prove 59 Vetteman right.
Maybe your countyman Jan Ullrich will win again. Maybe not. It's not the "state of sports" which is the problem. It's small minds.
I agree with the first part, not so sure about the last bit.
I admire LA for fighting cancer, and for his record and achievments. But I'm sorry, as a person I think he's a big arrogant schmuk. And from what I've heard, so do the other Tour riders.
He's a great athlete, but that's all he is. His contribution to GDP is zilch. He needs to get some perspective (along with several other over-paid sportspeople in the world).
One thing at a time:
1.Dumped his wife. Does anybody besides the two of them really know what happened? Because 52% of marriages are successful, it doesn't mean he's a family abandoner. He's supposed to pretend to be happily married for the sake of his kids? Every person I've ever talked with about the subject agrees that counseling can only go so far, and that it's best sometimes to split up and move on. Even small children know and are affected when mommy and daddy don't like each other.
2. Arrogant schmuck. He's from Texas. He is a SUPERSTAR, the biggest that cycling has EVER seen. What athlete in the world is as recognized as he is? Not even Michael Jordan or Michael Schumacher. But he also deserves to be confident, which a lot of the time can seem arrogant. All that testosterone and aggression from riding has to manifest itself somehow. His fellow riders still respect him as a competitor (which is more than you can say for Schumacher).
3. Excessively motivated. He's good at riding a bike. Some other things, like perspective and balance, are going to suffer. What is he supposed to do, turn down the money? Enter a monastery? Run for office? Let's wait and see what happens during his retirement.
It's not surprising L'equipe tries to sell newspapers. What might be surprising is that Greg Lemond is suspicious of him.
1.Dumped his wife. Does anybody besides the two of them really know what happened? Because 52% of marriages are successful, it doesn't mean he's a family abandoner. He's supposed to pretend to be happily married for the sake of his kids? Every person I've ever talked with about the subject agrees that counseling can only go so far, and that it's best sometimes to split up and move on. Even small children know and are affected when mommy and daddy don't like each other.
2. Arrogant schmuck. He's from Texas. He is a SUPERSTAR, the biggest that cycling has EVER seen. What athlete in the world is as recognized as he is? Not even Michael Jordan or Michael Schumacher. But he also deserves to be confident, which a lot of the time can seem arrogant. All that testosterone and aggression from riding has to manifest itself somehow. His fellow riders still respect him as a competitor (which is more than you can say for Schumacher).
3. Excessively motivated. He's good at riding a bike. Some other things, like perspective and balance, are going to suffer. What is he supposed to do, turn down the money? Enter a monastery? Run for office? Let's wait and see what happens during his retirement.
It's not surprising L'equipe tries to sell newspapers. What might be surprising is that Greg Lemond is suspicious of him.
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Maybe Lance's secret is a Vegemite sandwich for breakfast. Works for me!
moribundman,
I would like to suggest that you try either a vegemite and shredded lettuce sambo (sandwich), or a cheese and vegemite sandwich.
They are(were) Oz school yard staples.
If you get really keen, you can try a cheese and vegemite sandwich with chips (fries) and chicken salt, or the schoolyard version, which uses chicken flavoured crisps.
Vegemite really adds flavour to a beef stew.
and helps avoid hangovers (1 dessert spoon neat before bed).
I would like to suggest that you try either a vegemite and shredded lettuce sambo (sandwich), or a cheese and vegemite sandwich.
They are(were) Oz school yard staples.
If you get really keen, you can try a cheese and vegemite sandwich with chips (fries) and chicken salt, or the schoolyard version, which uses chicken flavoured crisps.
Vegemite really adds flavour to a beef stew.
and helps avoid hangovers (1 dessert spoon neat before bed).
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I like yogurt cheese or any other fairly bland cheese on a slice of bread that has a little Vegemite on it. I also like Vegemite (or soy sauce) on avocado. I haven't used it as a flavoring agent in soups or stews, because I think the heat will destroy the vitamin B. A glass of dark beer is nicely complemented by a slice of bread with Vegemite. But tonight I'm drinking some Australian Tawny port.
(local bakery has "cheesymite scrolls" scrolls with chees and vegemite baked in.
They'd go nicely with a Vitamin B laden Coopers Sparkling Ale.
as to bland cheese, nothing comes close to Kraft Cheddar singles :hurl: (they were the staple cheese when I was a kid 30 years ago)
They'd go nicely with a Vitamin B laden Coopers Sparkling Ale.
as to bland cheese, nothing comes close to Kraft Cheddar singles :hurl: (they were the staple cheese when I was a kid 30 years ago)
That would certainly explain a few thingsquote:
Originally posted by moribundman:
Maybe Lance's secret is a Vegemite sandwich for breakfast. Works for me!
How did the conversation drift from Lance Armstrong to Vegimite ? Bloody Aussies, they're always off topic
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Shannow, Cheesymite scrolls sounds delicious! That Kraft stuff isn't cheese. Real cheese is alive and doesn't come in body bags.
Loshio, I suddenly realize that I, the Euro snob, should stick with Marmite!
Loshio, I suddenly realize that I, the Euro snob, should stick with Marmite!
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