KYB Strut Plus SUCK

Since this thread was resurrected... I wanted to post a little different experience and why I'm not ready to universally condemn the entire KYB strut plus lineup. I think there are some gems but you need to do your research.

The car in question was a 2011 Sentra in the family. Needed all four corners of the factory struts/shocks replaced. Factory mounts were ratcheting as well. Normally would try to get ahold of the OEM Sachs parts that came on the car but Nissan recently started to make these hard to source and were instead pushing their "ValueAdvantage" line of loaded struts. Couldn't figure out who their manufacturer was and only knew they were made in China which didn't help narrow anything down.

I read all the stories like this, usually about KPennzoil Conventional putting good struts but terribly noisy mounts in their loaded packages. But I also found these stories were focused on specific models like certain CRVs and Priuses and some other specific cars. The ones for this Sentra had universally great reviews on Amazon and there were a few good stories on Reddit so I decided to go KYB over the unknown ValueAdvantage. I wasn't really interested in the few other available aftermarket options as they fit in the extreme value category. Sachs had an aftermarket option available but when you peel off the Sachs label, they were made by...KYB. So far it's been 10K miles on the Strut-Plus and they have been nothing short of perfect - ride height, damping feel, and dead silent even in sub zero temps which usually brings on the squeaking. Equal to the OEM feel, maybe even a little better feel on the damping, hard to remember what the factory suspension felt like new. Sure it's early and I could end up being wrong later but I'm really happy so far.

But I think that makes sense - there are so many models (and sub models) of cars they cover and given that complexity, and probably the different companies they source bearings and top hats and springs from, there is going to be variability. Based on what was available for this specific car, I think I ended up with the best outcome.

So I think the moral of the story for me is that model specific reviews can be more helpful than looking at a particular brand as a whole.
Up to now, i am still looking for any good news about the KYB loaded struts for my 2007 Honda Crv. This noise problem after installation seems like , it has not been solved by KYB engineers. They keep blaming DIYers, but, even if installation directions were followed to the T, the noise is still there.
 
Up to now, i am still looking for any good news about the KYB loaded struts for my 2007 Honda Crv. This noise problem after installation seems like , it has not been solved by KYB engineers. They keep blaming DIYers, but, even if installation directions were followed to the T, the noise is still there.
Well I have them on my old Accord and Sienna and so far they have been fine. No noises or anything and it's been many miles. There must be something wrong with the ones you have, or there is an issue with the installation.
 
Well I have them on my old Accord and Sienna and so far they have been fine. No noises or anything and it's been many miles. There must be something wrong with the ones you have, or there is an issue with the installation.
Unfortunately, it seems to be only a problem with the 3rd gen CRV as I have them on 1998 Odyssey, and no problems whatsoever. Fyi, i haven't bought it yet. Still searching. Wish that Bilstein would have loaded struts, that will the best day of my life, lol.
 
Unfortunately, it seems to be only a problem with the 3rd gen CRV as I have them on 1998 Odyssey, and no problems whatsoever. Fyi, i haven't bought it yet. Still searching. Wish that Bilstein would have loaded struts, that will the best day of my life, lol.
So you don’t really know there’s an issue, and you don’t know the installations were done “to a T” either.

How do you know “they” keep blaming DIY people? KYB?
 
Up to now, i am still looking for any good news about the KYB loaded struts for my 2007 Honda Crv. This noise problem after installation seems like , it has not been solved by KYB engineers. They keep blaming DIYers, but, even if installation directions were followed to the T, the noise is still there.
DId you check the top nuts? I had one a bit loose so it allowed the strut to clunk in the top mount. Tightened that and then they went about 60k miles and now are sitting in my garage waiting to be installed in the next Focus when needed. The rear shocks I bought at the same time got swapped into my current Focus and have near 120k miles on them, ~8-9 years old. Still work great.
IME KYB has been a good step above OEM and the quickstruts on the front of the 2007 Focus were very good, I've never worn one out. The Outback will get some on the rear soon as the OEM ones were soft to start and now have even less dampening.
 
So you don’t really know there’s an issue, and you don’t know the installations were done “to a T” either.

How do you know “they” keep blaming DIY people? KYB?
I have been a member of the CRV owners club since 2019, and have been reading horror stories, including the ones who have had back and forth emails with KYB. There is an issue for at least 90 pct of these kyb loaded struts for 3rd gen CRVs.
 
I have been a member of the CRV owners club since 2019, and have been reading horror stories, including the ones who have had back and forth emails with KYB. There is an issue for at least 90 pct of these kyb loaded struts for 3rd gen CRVs.
Well since you haven’t purchased anything yet I might suggest you get a different brand, or build them up yourself from components. There are multiple options out there if you do that.
 
Up to now, i am still looking for any good news about the KYB loaded struts for my 2007 Honda Crv. This noise problem after installation seems like , it has not been solved by KYB engineers. They keep blaming DIYers, but, even if installation directions were followed to the T, the noise is still there.

Honda actually sells OE quick struts for your 2007 Civic. Part numbers 51601-SVA-A06 and 51602-SVA-A14

If you want, you can even get Mugen quick struts, the same ones from the 2008 Si Mugen edition, OE Honda/Mugen quick struts :D
 
Don't know about other cars but for R52/1st gen minis (1st gen as in 1st bmw gen) using anything but OEM shock mounts resulted in bad results. It is suspension and unfortunately except when a shock blows out or something you can just get away with changing a shock.
It is suspension so everything is connected.
Changed to a new sway bar or jus a stiffer one? There is claning and banging ? Well guess what your swaybar bushings were "wallered" out. Replace the swabar bushings, now there is new clatter. Guess what now that the bushings are stiff and and you have a new sway bar your worn endlinks are letting you know that they are just worn out enough.
Look at that all done! Hey wait a minute new noise! Now that you replaced a bunch of parts and there is less stuff to shift around you notice that slight tie rod wear.
And on and on and so on.

P.S. for daily driver non adjustable stuff Koni>KYB
 
I realize this is an older post, but i do not like the negative reports on KYB. I have recently bought a front pair if the KYB coil/strut combo for the front of my 2008 Grand Cherokee, CRD. I really hope the are going to be ok. Got them from Rockauto along with rear MOOG springs. Time will tell i suppose.
 
Between your dislike for reality and your hope for a new one, only positive things can come out. We're rooting for you.

Moog springs are Ok btw. I have them on all for corners on my 4Runner, and they even had the 1" longer rear ones for the 2000MY which everyone uses on any 3rd Gen.
 
I had the worst experience with KYB Excel-G. After only about 30,000 miles their performance had dropped dramatically. Ride quality was very poor, with not much damping, and cornering performance had also decreased considerably.
 
When I met my wife, she was driving around a 4Runner with rock hard KYB shocks and load range D tires. I swear it was like driving a shopping cart.

I have always wondered why shocks/struts didn't come with an industry standard damping factor rating. That way consumers have an idea what they are actually buying. As it is, unless you are replacing with the exact shock/strut model it's a crap shoot. I guess you could go by the word of somebody else who has them. But then you have to rely on their opinion, and you know what they say. Opinions are like @$$holes, everybody has one :cautious:
 
I had the KYB quick struts in my 2006 CRV. I paired them with the cheapest quick struts I could find on RA in the rear. I won't be doing that again. I realize now that quick struts may be easier but not better.
 
I'm wondering if all aftermarket struts aren't terrible now.

Is the main problem with quickstruts the wrong sized, after-market spring?

What about if you rebuild your struts with a new aftermarket strut cartridge (Monroe, KYB, whomever), and use a new aftermarket strut mount / bearing, and then reuse the existing OEM spring and insulator?
 
And yet I'd gladly pay full price for original quality quickstruts.

Mine make me scream every time, the whole thing is one part number (assembled), and used to sell for well south of 300 bucks, it's now superceeded, split in a subassembly and the spring alone is 270 bucks.

Speaking of which, during my last rabbit hole dive the one brand where the complaints were once every fifth review and not every other review, was Mando.
Sachs also has an ebay store, as long as one finds the correct part number.
 
Is the main problem with quickstruts the wrong sized, after-market spring?

What about if you rebuild your struts with a new aftermarket strut cartridge (Monroe, KYB, whomever), and use a new aftermarket strut mount / bearing, and then reuse the existing OEM spring and insulator?
Many people want to DIY but the process of removing the spring and installing it onto a new strut is scary to people. So people go with quick struts because it replaces both the strut and the spring. So now you have two variables. First the strut may be undesirable and the spring too. The odds of getting the ride quality (and maybe ride height) you want are greatly reduced.

I've had good luck with Bilstein and Koni brand shock/struts, for what it's worth. I always retained the stock springs and pads.
 
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