Kendall's cold weather performance

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Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.
 
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It meets the SN/GF5 specs so, I would think that it would do just fine within the grade specified by the vehicle manufacturer.
 
If you're concerned, then for peace of mind there are any number of good 0wXX oils out there....Amsoil, M1 and RLI to name 3.




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I don't think the difference between the results is significant. I'd use the ConocoPhillips76Kendall oils. If you're leery, use any of the other brands--they'll all give excellent results.
 
Why don't you save the Kendall for the summer?
Don't know why you'd want to run M1 0W-40 as any synthetic 5w30 will likely be lighter at the coldest temp's you're going to be starting up at. But the ideal choice is likely M1 AFE 0W-30.
 
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w30 actually has slightly better MRV numbers than M1 0w30 AFE so you might look at that as well.
 
I have run Kendall in Northern MI for years and never had a problem. Most of my vehicles run over 100,000 miles and none needed engine work.

In reality, here are the magic super-secret keys to lubrication and long life:

1. Use the type and grade of oil specified by the engine manufacturer.
2. Check the oil on a regular basis. Do not ever let the level go below the "add" mark. Ever.
3. Change the oil and filter on the manufacturer's schedule.
4. If you are still concerned, take used oil samples and have them analyzed.
5. Stop worrying about lubrication and move on to the National Debt, male pattern baldness, glacial melting, something.

This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary, etc.
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Originally Posted By: AITG
I have run Kendall in Northern MI for years and never had a problem. Most of my vehicles run over 100,000 miles and none needed engine work.

In reality, here are the magic super-secret keys to lubrication and long life:

1. Use the type and grade of oil specified by the engine manufacturer.
2. Check the oil on a regular basis. Do not ever let the level go below the "add" mark. Ever.
3. Change the oil and filter on the manufacturer's schedule.
4. If you are still concerned, take used oil samples and have them analyzed.
5. Stop worrying about lubrication and move on to the National Debt, male pattern baldness, glacial melting, something.

This is just my opinion, your mileage may vary, etc.
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But Bob Is The Male Pattern Baldness Guy (BITMPBG) just doesn't flow as well...
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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Why don't you save the Kendall for the summer?
Don't know why you'd want to run M1 0W-40 as any synthetic 5w30 will likely be lighter at the coldest temp's you're going to be starting up at. But the ideal choice is likely M1 AFE 0W-30.
That's what the wifey's car has-it has to start, it's blocking everything else in the driveway!
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.



Im in Iowa and ran it in the wife's grand prix in the winter with no issues.
 
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: volk06
Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.


Robenstein,

I'm also located in Ames!

Im in Iowa and ran it in the wife's grand prix in the winter with no issues.
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.


I thought the 2011 F-150 spec's 5W-20 oil and your 1998 originally spec'd 5w30 but could use 5W-20 also. The Kendall 5W-20 should run just fine in your subzero temps. Even the 5w30 should be ok. Kendall is made by Conoco Phillips, as is the recommended Motorcraft oil, they are similar. I use Motorcraft 5W-20 in my 2002 F-150, which sits outside 24/7 and it strarts just fine in below 0 temps when using a quality oil filter with a good ADBV material and construction.

Whimsey
 
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.


I thought the 2011 F-150 spec's 5W-20 oil and your 1998 originally spec'd 5w30 but could use 5W-20 also. The Kendall 5W-20 should run just fine in your subzero temps. Even the 5w30 should be ok. Kendall is made by Conoco Phillips, as is the recommended Motorcraft oil, they are similar. I use Motorcraft 5W-20 in my 2002 F-150, which sits outside 24/7 and it strarts just fine in below 0 temps when using a quality oil filter with a good ADBV material and construction.

Whimsey


The ecoboost 3.5L requires 5w30 for the turbos. Which is why I'm leaning torwards justing using a full syn 5w30 instead of a blend.
 
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Looking at the recent thread of the pqia tests it showed Kendall had some on the worst cold weather performance specs. Should I be worried about running this in the cold Iowa winter or will it be ok? I don't want it to Be too thick n cause extra wear. Coldest would be -15-20 F

Would love to run m1 0-40 but it's not the recommended viscosity and would be a waste at 5k oci during warranty.


I thought the 2011 F-150 spec's 5W-20 oil and your 1998 originally spec'd 5w30 but could use 5W-20 also. The Kendall 5W-20 should run just fine in your subzero temps. Even the 5w30 should be ok. Kendall is made by Conoco Phillips, as is the recommended Motorcraft oil, they are similar. I use Motorcraft 5W-20 in my 2002 F-150, which sits outside 24/7 and it strarts just fine in below 0 temps when using a quality oil filter with a good ADBV material and construction.

Whimsey


The ecoboost 3.5L requires 5w30 for the turbos. Which is why I'm leaning torwards justing using a full syn 5w30 instead of a blend.


My bad, with a turbo I'd spend the extra $ and use a full synthetic instead of a blend. In that case your cold starting with a full synthetic 5w30 should even be better in the below 0 temps. When I switched my '89 F-150 from GTX 10w30 to Mobil 1 10w30 it was unbelievable. Below 0 starts were not painful anymore! OT, how do you like the your new F-150 with the eco boost. How does it compare to the 5.4 in your '98? Good luck with it!

Whimsey
 
Theres no comparison at all! The ecoboost has way more power and 5mpg average better so far! The ecoboost is not afraid to hit 6k where the early 5.4 only hits 4.5k and runs out of breath around 3k. Now if only the ecoboost is as reliable over the long run. The 5.4 has had nothing done but routine maintenance.
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Theres no comparison at all! The ecoboost has way more power and 5mpg average better so far! The ecoboost is not afraid to hit 6k where the early 5.4 only hits 4.5k and runs out of breath around 3k. Now if only the ecoboost is as reliable over the long run. The 5.4 has had nothing done but routine maintenance.


No shooting plugs and or leaking exhaust manifold on the '98 5.4? You've done good!

Whimsey
 
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Theres no comparison at all! The ecoboost has way more power and 5mpg average better so far! The ecoboost is not afraid to hit 6k where the early 5.4 only hits 4.5k and runs out of breath around 3k. Now if only the ecoboost is as reliable over the long run. The 5.4 has had nothing done but routine maintenance.


No shooting plugs and or leaking exhaust manifold on the '98 5.4? You've done good!

Whimsey



Not yet, knock on wood, and thats with 75% gravel roads
 
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Theres no comparison at all! The ecoboost has way more power and 5mpg average better so far! The ecoboost is not afraid to hit 6k where the early 5.4 only hits 4.5k and runs out of breath around 3k. Now if only the ecoboost is as reliable over the long run. The 5.4 has had nothing done but routine maintenance.


No shooting plugs and or leaking exhaust manifold on the '98 5.4? You've done good!

Whimsey



Not yet, knock on wood, and thats with 75% gravel roads


How many miles on the '98 5.4?
 
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Originally Posted By: volk06
Theres no comparison at all! The ecoboost has way more power and 5mpg average better so far! The ecoboost is not afraid to hit 6k where the early 5.4 only hits 4.5k and runs out of breath around 3k. Now if only the ecoboost is as reliable over the long run. The 5.4 has had nothing done but routine maintenance.


No shooting plugs and or leaking exhaust manifold on the '98 5.4? You've done good!

Whimsey



Not yet, knock on wood, and thats with 75% gravel roads


How many miles on the '98 5.4?


107k
 
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