Just messed up my spindle. help!!!!!

[Korean_redneck]

I was doing maintenance on my Hyundai Tiburon on the Rear wheel bearings. Taking out the Spindle nut was a snap with the help with a Air Gun. when putting it back on.. i triplechecked that the Nut was threaded correctly. then in the middle on threading it.. the nut was really hard to go in. I used the highest setting on the air tool ... i put my brake caliper and wheel back on and there was tiny play when i shake the tires.

When driving it.. there is no vibration.. but now under hard braking.. there is alot of shuddering in the rear.

anyone know how to install a new Spindle? or maybe a special tool to redo the threads?

 

[labman]

How bad is it? I have seen some fairly badly damaged ones cleaned up with a thread file. They are a little hard to find, but my K-D 2228 (Metric) has saved me more than once. As long as there is enough undamaged thread to give the proper torque value, you should be OK.

 

[Jim 5]

I think you cross threaded your spindle. I would consider it ruined. Never use air tools for installing fasteners, just use them for removing. The proper tool for installing fasteners is a torque wrench. It's a mistake we've all made at one point or another, and it's just part of the learning curve for working on cars.

In any case, I wouldn't try to repair the threads on the spindle. Remove the nut and examine it and the spindle (threads and bearing races) for damage. I suspect you are going to need to buy a new spindle and nut. A used one from an auto recycler would be fine as well. While you're at it, I would consider a new wheel bearing as well. I'm not familiar with your car, but a spindle should have a flange with bolt holes allowing it to be bolted on to your control arms somewhere.

If you are doing this kind of work on your car, it is really worthwhile to get a service manual for it. Chiltons manuals available at Wal-mart are pretty good.

I wouldn't drive it like this for too long. If your wheel/rotor is wobbling on the spindle, you're likely damaging the wheel bearing and perhaps the rotor. Plus you've got a spindle nut that MAY stay on. On some cars, if that nut comes off, the only thing holding the wheel/rotor combination on would be the brake caliper mount.

Either way, I wouldn't like the idea of sharing the road with you until you figure out what is happening there.

Good luck with this problem and let us know how it turns out!

 

[Jim 5]

Another thing occured to me.

Typically installing a rotor assembly on the spindle you have to preload the bearing to a certain torque spec.

Did you follow the procedure for this? This would typically involve either torquing the spindle nut to a specified torque setting and then installing a cotter pin in the castellated nut to hold that preload. Another method sometimes required is to hang a certain amount of weight on one of the lug bolts and tighten the spindle nut until the lug bolt will hold up the weight when the lug bolt is in the 9:00 (9 o'clock) or 3:00 position...then you'd back it off a quarter turn or something and lock it there with a cotter pin.

If you just blasted it on with an impact air tool, you may just have fragged the bearing, and you may not have damaged the spindle by cross threading.

Did you follow the recommended procedure?

 

[Jim 5]

Korean Redneck - Did you figure this one out? I'm interested in hearing how you solved this.

 

[Korean_redneck]

Man my life is ruined!!!! Went to the Hyundai Dealer the Nut, Spindle and wheel bearing together cost about $500 .. i don't have that kind of cash!!

the threads on the spindle is ruined.. the nut looks fine. theres got to be a way to re-thread it. its my only hope. I got do a New Jersey road trip and a Michigan road trip!!!!!!!!!!!! the car is still running smooth... except braking!!!!!

Thats it.. i'm buying a lottery ticket tonight!!!!!!

 

[mechtech]

I can't see why you couldn't rethread and use a new nut.
Maybe an SAE, instead of metric, die would be the next smaller size.

 

[cousincletus]

A machine shop may be able to help you. I would get the parts from the junkyard if you can't save the old ones. www.car-part.com.

 

[Jim 5]

I agree with cousin cletus. Get the parts at a junkyard....just look in the yellow pages under automobile recyclers and start phoning around till you find it. You'll probably pay 1/3 price or less.

 

[mechtech]

There's always the hard, expensive way, no doubt...

 

[labman]

I can't direct you to one, but I have heard of services that rethread the spindle on the vehicle. As far as I know, mostly larger trucks. I doubt cheap.

 

[Slick17601]

You may want to check with a Hyundai dealer or maybe a motorcycle/atv dealer.........they may have a metric tap & die set that could be used to cleanup the threads on the spindle.

 

[Eddie]

My first choice would be to find a die to cleanup the spindle. If you can't do it then take the spindle to a mechine shop with a NEW nut and let them do it. My Subaru has a VERY specific torque value for the spindle nut (100 Foot pounds). That is for the bearing preload. I suspect you may need a new wheel bearing. Get a d...n book before messing with stuff.

 

[Korean_redneck]

Checked 4 junk yards.. no avail. I found a Spindle nut on a crashed 1994 Hyundai Sonata for free.. so i was happy.

I think i will be preparing for my own funeral. The spindle threads are jacked and I put it in with a nut in perfect condition. seems to be holding. Now i'm goign to see if it can make it to Virginia to michigan.

 

[Jim 5]

check the junkyards in michigan. Most yellow pages ads go on about "nation-wide satellite parts locator system". Ask about it.

I Googled "wrecking hyundai tiburon" and got tons of results. If you have a credit card, you should be able to find a spindle somewhere between the pacific and the atlantic. Here's the Google search:

http://www.google.ca/search?sourcei...LD:2004-52,GGLD:en&q=wrecking+hyundai+tiburon

Here's a few promising hits:

http://www.usedwreckingyards.com/parts/Hyundai_Used_Auto_Parts.htm

http://www.automarktregistrierung.de/car_parts/usedpartscarhyundai/

Also, remove the spindle and take it to a machine shop. They should be able to rethread it for you- or tell you whether the treads are repairable. Next get a new wheel bearing and a shop manual, which will tell you how to preload the bearing.

Good luck. With this.

Jim